Which one of you wrote this

[thedungeondelver]

(and by "you" I mean the 4e developers who lurk)

From the 4e phb:

Novels, a cartoon series, computer games, and the
first campaign settings (FORGOTTEN REALMS and DRAGONLANCE)
were released

Yes, yes, Greyhawk bad, FR + DL good. But seriously.

 

[theredrobedwizard]

How many people outside the RPG hobby know about Greyhawk through novel lines? Same question, with FR or DL in the place of Greyhawk? I'm confident that several orders of magnitude more people have read an FR or DL novel than a Greyhawk novel.

As such, they speak to those people. Longtime gamers know that the Greyhawk Suppliment (not a full blown campaign setting, just a supplimental book) came out years before FR and DL. When was the first Greyhawk Campaign boxed set released?

-TRRW

 

[Henry]

As such, they speak to those people. Longtime gamers know that the Greyhawk Suppliment (not a full blown campaign setting, just a supplimental book) came out years before FR and DL. When was the first Greyhawk Campaign boxed set released?

-TRRW

Maybe so, but as a history overview it is kind of a big "oops". Greyhawk had a supplement as early as -- what? 1975 or '76? And the boxed set was 1981, so it predated Dragonlance by three years, easy.

 

[Voadam]

How many people outside the RPG hobby know about Greyhawk through novel lines? Same question, with FR or DL in the place of Greyhawk? I'm confident that several orders of magnitude more people have read an FR or DL novel than a Greyhawk novel.

As such, they speak to those people. Longtime gamers know that the Greyhawk Suppliment (not a full blown campaign setting, just a supplimental book) came out years before FR and DL. When was the first Greyhawk Campaign boxed set released?

-TRRW

Its too much to ask that in giving examples of the first campaign settings they actually include the first campaign setting?

The Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting Boxed Set pdf I have has a copyright date of 1987. So does the 1e Hardcover Dragonlance Adventures.

 

[MrFilthyIke]

Yeah! How dare they forget Blackmoor!

Oops, wait...this was a Greyhawk thing. Nevermind.

 

[M.L. Martin]

If they're thinking of 'campaign setting' as 'distinct product line', then they're actually right--DL and FR were branded uniquely from the get-go, but Greyhawk didn't get unique branding and an identity distinct from 'the AD&D world' until a couple of years after those two had paved the way.

 

[Greylock]

What, Blackmoor doesn't rate?

 

[thedungeondelver]

I have here a copy of the World of Greyhawk folio - not "Supplement I: Greyhawk", but the actual, yes there's campaign info in this folio. Copyright date: 1981. Likewise the following Boxed Set was copyright 1983.

The FR boxed set came out in 1987.

I'm not entirely sure when Dragonlance streeted but it was well, well after Greyhawk.


This way to the memory hole... :-/

 

[thedungeondelver]

If they're thinking of 'campaign setting' as 'distinct product line', then they're actually right--DL and FR were branded uniquely from the get-go, but Greyhawk didn't get unique branding and an identity distinct from 'the AD&D world' until a couple of years after those two had paved the way.

Firstly, there are "distinct product line" modules that were released for Greyhawk prior to FR and DL - the WG series. And the EX series. Secondly "campaign setting" means...campaign setting.

 

[Shemeska]

Maybe so, but as a history overview it is kind of a big "oops".

Given the talk about the 'loths/daemons in W&M, that oops is hardly the first. And apparently slaadi is now slaads. Oops.