Which one of you wrote this

[thedungeondelver]

I don't believe that I quoted you in any context, nor directed my comment at you personally. Are you using this error as an excuse to hate D&D 4e?

Do I or do I not fall in to the category of "anybody" or am I outside of "anybody"? It was an all-inclusive statement; every person who's posted in this thread (or, considering the broadness of your statement, people who haven't posted in this thread) could've said the same thing that I did since the "anybody" includes them, as well.

 

[theredrobedwizard]

Do I or do I not fall in to the category of "anybody" or am I outside of "anybody"? It was an all-inclusive statement; every person who's posted in this thread (or, considering the broadness of your statement, people who haven't posted in this thread) could've said the same thing that I did since the "anybody" includes them, as well.

Anybody who is using it(being the error of leaving Greyhawk out of the timeline)as a reason to hate 4e leads a pretty shallow existence.

Emphasis mine. The Anybody is quantified by the following majority of the sentence. The implied emphasis isn't on the Anybody, it's on the rest of the words.

As a related statement; Anybody who uses string theory to disprove waffles is a homeopathic misanthrope. Are you going to get defensive about that use of Anybody?

-TRRW

 

[hong]

I can't be a homeopath; some of my best friends are homeos.

 

[JeffB]

Argue about branding and such all you want- fact is GH had specific campaign setting materials (folio, boxed set) *years* before DL or FR did.

Pretty sad mistake- I'd be embarassed if was the person who made it.


As far as Blackmoor- technically the LBB wasnt about the setting. FFC was- but thats a JG product.

 

[Silverblade The Ench]

I have here a copy of the World of Greyhawk folio - not "Supplement I: Greyhawk", but the actual, yes there's campaign info in this folio.

I've got that gave away/ebayed lots of stuff (Against the GIants, Vault of the Drow etc, sigh... but kept the original Greyhawk and some other stuff. had frikking amazing D&D colleciton, but no room for it no more)
Also have the Rose Estes Greyhawk novels, they were good fun!

the first Forgotten Relams boxed sets, sets the standard of D&D production quality, IMHO. Parchment colouredpages, borders, great artwork etc.
I LOATHED the last boxed campaign set for the Realms, omg that was trashy! grrr.

 

[jdrakeh]

Do I or do I not fall in to the category of "anybody" or am I outside of "anybody"? It was an all-inclusive statement; every person who's posted in this thread (or, considering the broadness of your statement, people who haven't posted in this thread) could've said the same thing that I did since the "anybody" includes them, as well.

Chill out, man. As somebody else already pointed out, it is not an all inclusive statement but one that, as written, refers to "anybody" in the very specific context of "who is using it as a reason to hate 4e".

 

[GravyFingerz]

I can't be a homeopath; some of my best friends are homeos.

You would have an easier time making people believe that if you didn't carry a purple hand bag with you all the time

 

[WayneLigon]

I think you could make a pretty good case for Greyhawk not being a 'campaign setting' when stacked up against DL and FR. The first (and for a long, long time, only) Greyhawk material was even by it's own admission the absolute minimum you would want to have as a campaign world. A little history that ties things together, then a laundry list of placenames and countries with little or no real detail to them. You get hints and dips and drabs instead of a solid setting - That's fine for some people but I think most people voted with their wallets that they wanted something significantly more fleshed out when DL and later FR came along.

 

[thedungeondelver]

I think you could make a pretty good case for

No you couldn't, not even remotely.

 

[jdrakeh]

I think you could make a pretty good case for Greyhawk not being a 'campaign setting' when stacked up against DL and FR.

I dunno. I think that Greyhawk was unquestionably the first branded campaign setting. It may not have been as branded as FR or DL but it was branded and it was branded first. That said, I don't see a run of the mill editorial oversight as any sort of big deal. It happens. Also, I'd rather have an oversight here, than in some portion of the book that effects actual play.