Whiney players....

[Felix]

Ovid? I thought that was Shakespeare, from Richard III or something? Sounds like iambic pentameter to me, and it rhymes well in English, but I guess that could be down to the translator.

I love the quote, so it would be good if I knew the source.

From memory I thought it was Robert Herrick, but a Google turned up Ovid several times. *shrug* The quote by any other author would sound just as pithy, neh?

 

[White Whale]

Apart from the posts where he says that he's a relatively new DM, agrees that he should take a look at his own practices, says that some of this may be his fault, and otherwise agrees that he could communicate better with his players, I agree with you 100%.

RC

This is not my impression at all. Whenever confronted with flaws in his examples, Slaygrim modifies his story or justifies his choices by "it's important for the next adventure". When further pressured he admits that he isn't "perfect, nobody is", yet he never admits any guilt in the specific examples he gave (which are the origin of this discussion in the first place).

More, he did not create this thread to ask for help and advice by fellow DMs; the first post is as he says himself "a rant".

Perhaps if he had come across as less arrogant ("This is a flaw HE [the whiner] has. It isn't me."!) and more humble he'd receive more understanding from other posters.

 

[Elf Witch]

More, he did not create this thread to ask for help and advice by fellow DMs; the first post is as he says himself "a rant".

Perhaps if he had come across as less arrogant ("This is a flaw HE [the whiner] has. It isn't me."!) and more humble he'd receive more understanding from other posters.

But sometimes you need to rant. You can get so frustrated with a player or a DM that you just need to vent.

If this player whines as much as he said he did I can understand the need to rant. There is nothing more frustrating than dealing with someone who complains about everything in a non constructive way.

I think part of the reason for his post was that he was angry and he didn't want to take it out on the player and act like a jerk himself when the player became the new DM.

I have seen a lot of posts in years here from people who were basically just posting to let off steam.