Whirtlestaff's Wizards' Acad. Revisited, OOC02

[Leif]

Oh well. I'll figure something out. Sculpt spell requires another metamagic feat and I plan on using Craft Wonderous Item. I have another feat planned to go along with it so I think I'll take it at 6th level.

Looks like Kerlan is ready to go. Sheet has been updated.

The thing is that Craft Wondrous Item is not a Metamagic feat. It's an Item Creation Feat, which is different from Metamagic, I think. Metamagic Feats change spell effects only. Scotley, am I right about this?

 

[Scotley]

The thing is that Craft Wondrous Item is not a Metamagic feat. It's an Item Creation Feat, which is different from Metamagic, I think. Metamagic Feats change spell effects only. Scotley, am I right about this?

You are right, metamagic and item creation feats are different animals. Given KerlynRayne's well established grasp of the rules I'm inclined to believe the issue here is grammatical. I suspect he is saying that he wants to use Item Creation in the near term and so will be putting off Sculpt spell until a later level when he can meet pre-requisite of a meta-magic feat. Best let him address this.

What is available for the bonus feat this level? Are we limited to metamagic and/or item creation. I have not selected one for Tylara as yet.

 

[Leif]

What is available for the bonus feat this level? Are we limited to metamagic and/or item creation. I have not selected one for Tylara as yet.

As per PH, Wizard bonus feats (like this one at 5th level) are limited to Metamagic, Item Creation, and Spell Mastery. See, PH p. 57.

 

[Scotley]

Tylara is only a 4th level wizard this time due to her Druid level. Were you giving us an extra feat or only speaking of the normal 5th level wizard bonus?

 

[Leif]

Tylara is only a 4th level wizard this time due to her Druid level. Were you giving us an extra feat or only speaking of the normal 5th level wizard bonus?

Sorry, you're right. I just meant the usual 5th level wizard bonus feat. Nevermind.

 

[KerlanRayne]

The thing is that Craft Wondrous Item is not a Metamagic feat. It's an Item Creation Feat, which is different from Metamagic, I think. Metamagic Feats change spell effects only. Scotley, am I right about this?

Yes, I was talking about two feats here. I can't swap my Metamagic feat for Sculpt spell because it is needed as a prerequisite. Also I don't want to swap the Craft feat because I plan on using it. Sorry about the confusion.

Sorry, you're right. I just meant the usual 5th level wizard bonus feat. Nevermind.

So does that mean the bonus feat we are getting this level is an open feat and we can pick anything we want?

 

[Scott DeWar]

I think the feat in question is the wizard bonus feat gained at wizard level 5, so those with lev els in other clases or Levlel Advancemnt, wont get said feat as they are character level 5, but wizard level <5

 

[Leif]

Yes, I was talking about two feats here. I can't swap my Metamagic feat for Sculpt spell because it is needed as a prerequisite. Also I don't want to swap the Craft feat because I plan on using it. Sorry about the confusion. So does that mean the bonus feat we are getting this level is an open feat and we can pick anything we want?

No. If you're not leveling up to 5th level Wizard, you don't get a feat this level, unless the new level that you're taking also has a bonus feat. You're next standard feat comes next time at CL 6.

So Mr. DeWar has it right.

 

[KerlanRayne]

No. If you're not leveling up to 5th level Wizard, you don't get a feat this level, unless the new level that you're taking also has a bonus feat. You're next standard feat comes next time at CL 6.
So Mr. DeWar has it right.

Oh, well from your emails I thought we would be getting an extra feat. You said it when we were talking about the special feat you were designing. You said, "But, I think I am going to allow you to take a bonus feat when you level up to 5th. This will be just like a typical wizard bonus feat: you can take spell mastery, a metamagic feat, or any of the rest of the Wizard Bonus Feat list in the ph, but you can't take other feats, like general feats or fighter feats." What happened to that?

 

[Leif]

Oh, well from your emails I thought we would be getting an extra feat. You said it when we were talking about the special feat you were designing. You said, "But, I think I am going to allow you to take a bonus feat when you level up to 5th. This will be just like a typical wizard bonus feat: you can take spell mastery, a metamagic feat, or any of the rest of the Wizard Bonus Feat list in the ph, but you can't take other feats, like general feats or fighter feats." What happened to that?

Did I say that?? I think you made that up. Yeah, you probably got with the admins and doctored up a post that looks like I said it, too! Ok, ok, ok, you can have your precious feat.