Who plays Invis-Mirror Image this way?

[Markn]

Apologies if this has come up already...

I was reading Expedition to the Demonweb Pits and in one of the encounters it mentions the bad guy casts Mirror Image, followed by Invisibility. To my surprise it goes on to say that only the caster becomes invisible while the images stay visible. I guess, by the rules, this makes sense but we have always played it that all the images are invisible. How many people play it as described in the module and how many don't? Just curious.

 

[Pyrex]

An attacker must be able to see the images to be fooled. If you are invisible or an attacker shuts his or her eyes, the spell has no effect. (Being unable to see carries the same penalties as being blinded.)

Umm, no. The images do not remain visible.

Invisibility + Mirror Image does work great against a group where only some of them can See Invisibility though.

 

[Nail]

To my surprise it goes on to say that only the caster becomes invisible while the images stay visible.

Sounds like an error in the module.

 

[Quartz]

I don't see the problem here. Note the order of the spells. Were it Invisibility then Mirror Image, then the images would be invisible too. This way, just the images are visible, so there's no chance of the caster being hit by someone who can't detect the invisible caster. It does mean, however that the caster's square is known and so the caster can e targetted by area of effect spells.

 

[RigaMortus2]

I don't see the problem here. Note the order of the spells. Were it Invisibility then Mirror Image, then the images would be invisible too. This way, just the images are visible, so there's no chance of the caster being hit by someone who can't detect the invisible caster. It does mean, however that the caster's square is known and so the caster can e targetted by area of effect spells.

Based on the quoted spell text, I don't see anything that indicates that casting the spells in a certain order would make a difference. Are you invisible? Yes. Then Mirror Image has no effect.

 

[phindar]

We used to do it that way in 2e, but we switched in 3e. The reason being is that the images change to look like whatever you look like, if you see a group of 6 identical guys leaping and moving together, and only one of them is Blurred (for example), then that's a clue. The best idea I've heard lately someone just posted the other day, Mirror Image and Displacement. You've got 5 images, each with a 50% Miss Chance so they'll be around a bit longer. That's not bad.

 

[IanB]

I don't see the problem here. Note the order of the spells. Were it Invisibility then Mirror Image, then the images would be invisible too. This way, just the images are visible, so there's no chance of the caster being hit by someone who can't detect the invisible caster. It does mean, however that the caster's square is known and so the caster can e targetted by area of effect spells.

I would agree except that mirror image has specific text covering invisibility:

If you are invisible or an attacker shuts his or her eyes, the spell has no effect.

 

[darthkilmor]

I would agree except that mirror image has specific text covering invisibility:

If you are invisible or an attacker shuts his or her eyes, the spell has no effect.

So is there a difference between "are invisible" and "become invisible" ?

I'd run it like the module says, personally.

 

[Hypersmurf]

So is there a difference between "are invisible" and "become invisible" ?

Once you have become invisible, you are invisible.

And it makes sense to me. If you paint yourself green, all your images look green. If you put on a purple jacket, all your images wear purple jackets. If you turn invisible, all your images turn invisible.

-Hyp.

 

[hong]

Ah, but what if it was an illusion of an invisible mirror image?