SelcSilverhand
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I wouldn't count yourself out yet. When I npc'd midian the first round I rolled maximum for his Poison spell 
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SelcSilverhand
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It's hard to figure out, the SRD doesn't tell you much about adding the swallow whole ability, only to look at the creature to determine how much damage you take. Most creatures with swallow whole do 3d8+str and 2d6 + half str damage and some acid damage, but they're also all magical beasts. I guesstimated that I needed to drop the bite damage by two categories and do half strength. Since I wanted a normal animal and not a magical beast I only did 1 point of acid damage since it seems to be a slower process normally. I ended up with 1d4+2 damage from the muscle action and 1 point of acid damage a round. I figure that if the creature dies, the muscle damage stops and only the acid would continue until you get out.
Huh!
How much damage did Whisper take then to get to zero HP so fast? As far as I can tell she was undamaged going in, then it bit her and swallowed her, and after one turn of swallowing damage was down to zero.
The bite must be hugely damaging if the swallow damage is so low.
How much damage did Whisper take then to get to zero HP so fast? As far as I can tell she was undamaged going in, then it bit her and swallowed her, and after one turn of swallowing damage was down to zero.
The bite must be hugely damaging if the swallow damage is so low.
SelcSilverhand
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Surprise round damage it did 1d8+10=11 and started its grapple. I mistyped the damage in IC for the surprise round, so for round 1 when it did the bite damage a second time to swallow I did it correctly at 1d8+11=12, which was 23 hp.
Walking Dad
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I don't know if this helps, but there is a creature of the animal type with swallow whole:
Dinosaur :: d20srd.org
Dinosaur :: d20srd.org
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Not to be nit-picky, but I don't think it does bite damage on the same round it swallows. Swallowing is a whole action of it's own, not something done in conjunction with a bite (like improved grab). It would do the listed swallow damage on that turn and subsequent turns, not bite.
That's my understanding at least.
Not to be nit-picky, but I don't think it does bite damage on the same round it swallows. Swallowing is a whole action of it's own, not something done in conjunction with a bite (like improved grab). It would do the listed swallow damage on that turn and subsequent turns, not bite.
That's my understanding at least.
Dr Simon
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My reading of Swallow Whole is:
Round One: Bite damage plus grapple check (all Swallow Whole critters tend to have Improved Grab with their bite attack.
Round Two: Swallow attempt is a grapple check against opponent held in mouth. Does damage from internal effects.
Round Three etc: Damage from internal effects.
It may even be that the Swallowing is an action all by itself, and you don't take damage until the next round, but this isn't clear. I wouldn't put bite damage and digestion damage in the same round/action.
Round One: Bite damage plus grapple check (all Swallow Whole critters tend to have Improved Grab with their bite attack.
Round Two: Swallow attempt is a grapple check against opponent held in mouth. Does damage from internal effects.
Round Three etc: Damage from internal effects.
It may even be that the Swallowing is an action all by itself, and you don't take damage until the next round, but this isn't clear. I wouldn't put bite damage and digestion damage in the same round/action.
SelcSilverhand
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d20srd.org
Swallow Whole (Ex): If a creature with this special attack begins its turn with an opponent held in its mouth (see Improved Grab), it can attempt a new grapple check (as though attempting to pin the opponent). If it succeeds, it swallows its prey, and the opponent takes bite damage.
This is my first time using swallow whole, though I've been on the receiving end more than once =P, so here was my take after reading it:
1) Make a bite attack, if you hit you deal damage and start a grapple per improved grab.
2) Make a second grapple check, if you succeed you do bite damage again and swallow the target.
3) On your turn the following rounds you deal damage to everything in your stomach, acid and "crushing" damage.
Swallow Whole (Ex): If a creature with this special attack begins its turn with an opponent held in its mouth (see Improved Grab), it can attempt a new grapple check (as though attempting to pin the opponent). If it succeeds, it swallows its prey, and the opponent takes bite damage.
This is my first time using swallow whole, though I've been on the receiving end more than once =P, so here was my take after reading it:
1) Make a bite attack, if you hit you deal damage and start a grapple per improved grab.
2) Make a second grapple check, if you succeed you do bite damage again and swallow the target.
3) On your turn the following rounds you deal damage to everything in your stomach, acid and "crushing" damage.
Walking Dad
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Hey, SelcSilverhand, my invitation-only 3.5 2nd level game is a cleric short. Are you interested? More informations here:
http://www.enworld.org/forum/talking-talk/242045-3-5-ooc-hall-dwarven-lord.html
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