Why all the rage? (semi-longish rant)

alsih2o

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I seem to see a lot of posts and posters spitting venom upon venom about nearly everything WoTC does or publishes.

people complain about:

the prices- heck, i pay more for a well prepared steak than most of the books i buy!

the rules- this is, despite what most seem to want to admit, pretty good rules for nearly everything you can do in life itself in under 500 pgs(3 core books).... that is AMAZING!

the decisions- these folks aren't gamers with nothing better to do, they are business people who have stockholders to answer to.

it just seems that there is never a "Whew! Aren't we lucky someone makes all this this cheap and this well!" mentality in hardly any posts....what is that?

people complaining about $20 bucks for a splat book that will last for years should really take the time to question that next 2 liter of their favorite soda that won't last thru 1 gaming session, or the $3 for a mini that is only used in every 22nd session.

i am not saying that WoTC is perfect, but considering what other companies i do business with provide($75 bucks a tire, and i need new ones in 12 months) and how much fun i have with their products (woo-hoo! shoes!) all we get from these folks seems very reasonable.

am i the only one who feels this way? or are there others who are also on this tack and are just staying silent about it?

realize, i can understand a certain level of frustration, but i feel like i NEVER see anything positive posted about WoTC. heck the only things in my whole hobby arsenal with more value per dollar are my dice.

no offense to any of you who have complained, like i say, i understand, but could we just once in a while stop and be incredibly thankful that someone does all this so we didn't have to spend 4 years in math classes doing probability charts and playtesting just to figure out the basics of combat ourselves?
 

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whew! sorry if i got off on a rant there, but it is nice to see at least 1 or 2 people agree..

pirate-cat, i haven't seen a LOT of posts raging over prices, but i have been humored to see several folks talk about buying dvds such as LoTR and within days complain about $20 for splat...this part i guess confuses more than irritates me :)
 

*shrug*
People complain. Not just gamers - all sorts of people. They gripe about drivers on the roads, they gripe about politics, about TV shows, about lunch, they gripe about everything. You see lots of complaints about WOTC because this is a D&D gaming site, and thus the griping tends to stay somewhere on-topic.
 

I think it's an illusion, to an extent.

First of all, I think that people say plenty of positive stuff on these boards. It's just human nature to notice and remember the negative stuff a lot more than the positive - that's how our minds work.

Secondly, when someone asserts something negative, it's more likely to be objectionable to others, so a heap of reactionary posts arguing the point start. "I like this" posts are usually not objectionable, and therefore have a much smaller footprint. Also, the flamey threads stay on the front page for longer because people are arguing the point.

It's an unfortunate artifact of message boards, really - they highlight the negative...!
 

Keep in mind that this is a D&D site. So most people here like the game. No point having big group hugs about it. :D

At a guess, I would think a place like RPG.net would get a lot more positive posts about WotC and d20, simply because the fans there need to defend the game to bashers.

And finally, I am one of the downtrodden masses. My only real right is to complain every now and again.

But, just for alsi2o: Yay WotC! You guys RULE! :cool:
 


In my experience I have found that you will always find someone to complain about just about any topic you care to mention. Not always the same people but there is always a dissenting voice.

Not that is bad or anything but you can pretty much set your watch by it - when you say you like 'a' there will be someone along to tell you how 'a' sucks and 'b' is the only way to go.

*shrugh* don't let it bother you too much. Remember if WotC gave out free money with ice cream there would still be someone to complain about it. :)
 

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