Why are double axes not defensive?

Otterscrubber

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It even says it offers great attack and defensive capabilities, but it does not have the defensive trait. It is stout, but I'm not entirely sure the advantages on that?
 

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Are you looking in the character builder, or the adventurer's vault? The double-weapons originally had the defensive property across-the-board, which made them a no-brainer choice for dual-wielders. Then they were "updated" to tone them down.
 

I know they updated them to drop their damage, but did they drop the defensive off of double axes? I dont have my book in front of me our I'd look it up. That seems kinda wasteful, and a double axe really isn't worth the feat in that case.
 

Looks like they didn't lower the damage on the double-axe (which is high for a double-weapon), but rather dropped the defensive property. It's mostly useful to certain ranger, fighter, and barbarian builds (the ones who can't treat any one-handed weapon as an off-hand weapon).
 

Possibly because the whole idea of a double axe is just silly?:D

Setting aside the fact that a weapon designed to maximize the force on the cutting edge through using a lever effect suddenly works (less than) half as well if you grip it by the middle......

I think that the double axe had sufficient benefits (higher damage die than most double weapons, usable as both two weapons and a two-handed weapon) that the defensive trait may have been viewed as unnecessary. In addition, very few higher-damage weapons are also Defensive in general, which may be a genre convention that WOTC wanted to promote (the heavy hitter is reckless, the finesse guy is careful).

Also, just looking at a double axe: what would make it more defensive than a regular axe? It's not like it has a smaller, more maneuverable parrying head, or a quick, jabbing point to push back an opponent. It's an axe, with an axe!

If it had been Defensive, too, I think it would have been way too attractive as a weapon choice (even to my own dwarf fighter, despite my aversion to weapons which I cannot imagine how you would wield....how do I describe my attacks if I can't figure out how anyone could possibly attack with this thing?).:p
 

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