Why did I do this? Because I could.

[mythusmage]

Let's see...

The mortiverse is its universe.

The mortiverse is a black hole.

There is nothing outside the mortiverse for it to "feed" on.

Therefor the mortiverse is evaporating. And since the mortiverse is its own universe, and thus there is nothing but the mortiverse and there is nowhere else, all that evaporate has to go somewhere else.

Conclusion: The mortiverse spawns universes.

 

[BOZ]

i'm mortified.

 

[Servitor of Wrath]

Let's see...

The mortiverse is its universe.

The mortiverse is a black hole.

There is nothing outside the mortiverse for it to "feed" on.

Therefor the mortiverse is evaporating. And since the mortiverse is its own universe, and thus there is nothing but the mortiverse and there is nowhere else, all that evaporate has to go somewhere else.

Conclusion: The mortiverse spawns universes.

Hmm...interesting. *beardstroke*

 

[paradox42]

So... it's the Omega AND the Alpha then?

 

[Servitor of Wrath]

Perhaps...Mortiverse takes up the entire universe...but when bits of it begin to break off, there's no longer enough space in the universe & Mortiverse is shunted into a spatial pocket. The tremor caused by this flings apart the universe bits (Big Bang?). The universe bits assemble, do their thing, expand...eventually the universe gets big enough that Mortiverse can return...it does so and promptly obliterates existence. Then it all begins again.

Just an idea.

 

[Fieari]

You need to make a modification to its Create Spawn ability. You see, each spawn it creates subtracts an infinite amount of hp from the mortiverse, but that won't render it helpless, because Infinity - Infinity = Infinity, not zero.

The set of all counting numbers is infinite. The set of all even numbers is infinite. Subtract all the even numbers from all the counting numbers, and you're left with an infinite set still.

 

[Servitor of Wrath]

You need to make a modification to its Create Spawn ability. You see, each spawn it creates subtracts an infinite amount of hp from the mortiverse, but that won't render it helpless, because Infinity - Infinity = Infinity, not zero.

The set of all counting numbers is infinite. The set of all even numbers is infinite. Subtract all the even numbers from all the counting numbers, and you're left with an infinite set still.

Thanks.

 

[Slife]

You need to make a modification to its Create Spawn ability. You see, each spawn it creates subtracts an infinite amount of hp from the mortiverse, but that won't render it helpless, because Infinity - Infinity = Infinity, not zero.

The set of all counting numbers is infinite. The set of all even numbers is infinite. Subtract all the even numbers from all the counting numbers, and you're left with an infinite set still.

Technically infinity - infinity is undefined. Although, since they're both aleph zero (countable infinities), they're equal for any meaningful definition. The set of all counting numbers minus the set of all even numbers is zero, as there is a 1 to 1 correspondance between them.

A decent explanation is here.




But how does it get +infinity anyway? Is that what 'time lord' does? Do you apply a template infinite times?

 

[HolyGrenadeFrenzy]

Head of the Celestial Beuacracy Reports

Epic Spell: Difficulty 500

Name: Contain Mortiverse

Effect: A little Black Box made of glasteeled black obsidian that turns about itself with nine blocks on a side(gives DMs a reason to keep a rubic cube with all the stickers off of it hanging around.) this immprisons the Mortiverse unless the Mortiverse fails its save....inside the box its pain and longing is temperarily neutralized and thus worth remaining however it is still aware yet unable to affect anything outside of the box which is really afocus for a closed dimension..........the fact that it can hear as see for about five feet is reason to keep it in a dark location yet it can hear so seal it up tight ........do not put this in a bag of Holding for if you do it will rend the bag and release the Mortiverse into the Astral Cyclone thus connected such bags are to the Ethereal and Astral Planes.....not to mention the rending of a planar chasm.

Components:Black mechanical Box made in Sigil from glass that comes from the spire at the center of the concordinat plane of opposition otherwise known as the Outlands........and a drop of blood from a creature of any sort from each of the surrounding planes...........the last required component is the death of the caster by any means after casting the spell the box only need come in contact with the Mortiverse afterward....

Time to cast:1 full Day

its all out of order but no one should be able to complain......it has the highest cost and near impossible components.............idy bidy living space!

"Yes I did find that Greater Artifact of mine and the Mortiverse is most definately still in there!" XY

 

[Fieari]

But how does it get +infinity anyway? Is that what 'time lord' does? Do you apply a template infinite times?

The "Timelord Abilities" are actually called Omnific Abilities. They're like Salient Divine Abilities, except a bit more powerful. How much more powerful?

Well, A Salient Divine Ability is worth six feats. A Salient Cosmic Ability is worth six SDAs. A Salient Transcendant Ability is worth six SCAs. A Salient Omnific Ability (only available to those with the Time Lord or High Lord templates) are worth six STAs.

The Transiliant Saves ability, merely a STA (actually, 3 STAs, one for each save) makes it so that you never fail a saving throw, even on a nat 1. The Infinite Str, Dex, Con, etc. abilities are SOAs, and give you... well... an infinite score in those statistics. They also describe how to handle Infinite vs Infinite scores, in that if two characters with infinite abilities meet, certain infinite combinations cancel out, reverting the characters back to their pre-infinite stats (which is why those stats are listed in each case).

So, no, the template is not being applied infinite times. Heck, there's a prerequisite number of HD for each application of the template anyway, so we can't legally do so anyway.