Why do barbarians not have spot/move silently/hide?

[Walken]

You seem to be a little misled about barbarians.

Barbarians are uncivilized people. It is a term that the greeks used to describe anyone not Greek. It is a blanket term for underdeveloped or unsophisticated folks, including, but not limited to, nomadic peoples.

Romans, not greek. They used the world to describe the Celts. They spoke like sheep; "bah bah baaah"

 

[Nightfall]

Explains so much about the Scots and sheep too.

 

[Kmart Kommando]

They are not, however, wilderninjas that also rage.

Wilderninja is so going to be my next character

Out of the underbrush comes a bunch of flying squirrels, chucked in shuriken style. Squirriken, if you will.

 

[Starglim]

As I read through this thread I started to think 'wow I guess when you really look at the barb class it doesn't really make much sense'

They are really more like berserkers than what most people think of as Barbarians (Conan) he probably is closer to a ranger. At least in general.

What Pawsplay said. Conan got his stealthy skills from the years he spent as a thief.

 

[Nightfall]

Rangers are cooler anyway.

 

[pawsplay]

Romans, not greek. They used the world to describe the Celts. They spoke like sheep; "bah bah baaah"

Greek, from "barbaros." They particularly resented it when their Roman conquerors used the term on them in turn.

 

[glass]

They are not, however, wilderninjas that also flip out and kill people.

...and not think twice about it!


glass.

 

[RigaMortus2]

You seem to be a little misled about barbarians.

Barbarians are uncivilized people. It is a term that the greeks used to describe anyone not Greek. It is a blanket term for underdeveloped or unsophisticated folks, including, but not limited to, nomadic peoples.

In modern terms...anyone that doesn't have cell phones or access to mass communication lines.

Due to their lack of technological advancement, they are usually 'closer to the earth' hunter/gatherers, which is why they get survival. That doesn't mean they are good at it, it just means they are more familiar than city-folk. It's also why they start illiterate.

Previously there was a limiting factor for barbarians, in that they didn't like magic or technology, but that has been removed from the current edition (because most players didn't think their barbarian should be afraid of their flaming sword).

I had a barbarian/cleric designed after a yanomamo (rainforest indian) shaman, and he was great fun. Nothing like a hopped-up, bandy legged, 4'6" human wearing a loincloth and a bad haircut to ruin negotiations.

Nice explaination... Of course, this begs the question, shouldn't they be a Race rather than a Class?

 

[werk]

Romans, not greek. They used the world to describe the Celts. They spoke like sheep; "bah bah baaah"

Wow, where do you think the Romans got all those fancy words from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarian

Celts were barbarians, as were the Goths and the Franks before them. Anyone outside accepted society.


A agree with Artoomis, they probably reduced the barbar's skills so much, for balance, that it doesn't make much real sense.

And barbarian can't be a race, it is a concept that transcends race. Orcs make perfect barbarians, due to their chaotic and unsophisitcated nature, as do most halflings.

 

[Nail]

Conan ... might also be a good candidate for Reaping Mauler, as he has strangled just about everything to death at one time or another.

Including a Master Strangler during a strangling contest!

Gak!