Why do people hate Elfkind?

Byronic

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So why do people hate the various races of elves (Elves, Eladrin, Drow etc).
Does Tolkien have anything to do with it?


And why oh why don't you change them until you like them again?
 

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Because almost every fantasy series has elves of some type?

Because 3e had this habit of "Elves that live by a river- we'll call them Elf (River) and put them in an MM!" subrace bloat. While many races had them, elves were the most guilty (I believe there were 18 elven subraces by the end of 3.5).

Because many books pretty much crammed down your throat how awesome elves are.

(Granted, I hate dwarves more, but these are likely reasons)

And why oh why don't you change them until you like them again?
So what you're saying is that if I don't like Meat Loaf, I should use mustard instead of ketchup in the recipe? Why do I have to like them? Or use them, at all?
 

I don't mind elves, I just don't see any need for more than one flavor of them. And I really don't see any purpose behind continuing to include the stupid half-elf.
 


I think there's a certain complex from them being portrayed as better humans than humans. (Which, in Tolkien's world, was actually true.)
 

Two main things:

1. They have often been portrayed as the "we're better than you" race, especially with splatbooks like Complete Elves' Handbook from 2e.

2. About a bazillion subraces. Humans are supposed to be the adaptable ones, so how come there's an elf subrace to beat the humans in every single way?
 

It's a question of math. Going by all editions (except the current), how is it that a species which can live 600 years and are only able to mate once they reach the age of 150 be able to survive the onslaught of "lesser" species which are known for their expansionist tendencies who are able to out populate elves long before two elves can reproduce?

That is why people hate elves. Their continual existence is illogical especially considering that goblins, humans, orcs, etc are likely to slash and burn an elvin forest to the ground after their first clash with the "fair-folk."
 

Elf hate probably comes from the many elf fanboys who insist the elves, no matter in which fantasy world, are better at everything than humans.
And wherever there is a fanboy there is also a hater.


Their continual existence is illogical especially considering that goblins, humans, orcs, etc are likely to slash and burn an elvin forest to the ground after their first clash with the "fair-folk."

I actually calculated that in 3E even dragons would reproduce faster than elves (before the FR splatbook came out which contradicted the PHB and said that elves mature as fast as humans do)
 

It's because people say stuff like "elfkind." Huh? What's wrong with just saying "why do people hate elves?"

Elf lovers are full of that kind of pretentiousness all the time. :p
 

It's because people say stuff like "elfkind." Huh? What's wrong with just saying "why do people hate elves?"

Elf lovers are full of that kind of pretentiousness all the time. :p

Yeah, everyone knows it's "elvenkind", or, in elven script,
clean_elvish_script.jpg
 

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