Why do so many people hate Voyager?

[Ranger REG]

I believe the stupid decision referred to was to blow the array up rather than use it to go home. The *smart* decision would have been to modify a few proton torpedoes to work as time bombs, send themselves home with the array and then the bombs do their dirty work.

And if the time bomb did not completely destroy the Caretaker's Array, Voyager will be bringing home the Kazons, and they'll keep coming.

They stayed to make sure the job is done right, and that was the premise for the show, to get stuck on the other side of the galaxy.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

So load the array up with a load of explosives and find a couple members of the crew willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. Leave those two crewmen in a shuttle with a remote detonator and then get the hell out of dodge.

And if the time bomb did not completely destroy the Caretaker's Array, Voyager will be bringing home the Kazons, and they'll keep coming.

They stayed to make sure the job is done right, and that was the premise for the show, to get stuck on the other side of the galaxy.

 

[Staffan]

And if the time bomb did not completely destroy the Caretaker's Array, Voyager will be bringing home the Kazons, and they'll keep coming.

They stayed to make sure the job is done right, and that was the premise for the show, to get stuck on the other side of the galaxy.

The Kazons couldn't defeat Voyager by itself, so there's no *way* they'd pose a credible threat to the federation. And like Doc said, load the array with *enough* explosives, and it *will* be destroyed.

The only reason Voyager stayed behind in the Delta Quadrant was the needs of the story, and I find that a rather weak rationale unless backed up by "in-character" reasons.

 

[Ranger REG]

Actually, they could if they outnumber the one little ship.

And I honestly don't think that Janeway is going to leave someone behind to make sure the job is done, after her mission is to retrieve Tuvok and Chakotay's Maquis cell. Even Kirk would not have done that. Why do you think that Mr. Spock snuck out of the bridge while everyone is affixed on the mainscreen in TWOK?

(What am I doing? I'm defending VOYAGER? Oh well, I did say I like the first three seasons before Braga took over.)

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Why?

You have to ask why?

It is simpl. Spock logically knew there was a huge time constraint that would not work well with an arguement with emotional humans. So he acted quickly in the most logical manner to save the ship.

On the other hand I don't remember Janeway being under the same constraint. The biggest local Kazon ship was nuked so there was no immediate threat.

Also if Janeway couldnt trust someone else to do the job right then the dumb broad should have stayed behind herself. Stranding her entire crew in the Delta Quadrant shows how weakl her command skills really are.

Actually, they could if they outnumber the one little ship.

And I honestly don't think that Janeway is going to leave someone behind to make sure the job is done, after her mission is to retrieve Tuvok and Chakotay's Maquis cell. Even Kirk would not have done that. Why do you think that Mr. Spock snuck out of the bridge while everyone is affixed on the mainscreen in TWOK?

(What am I doing? I'm defending VOYAGER? Oh well, I did say I like the first three seasons before Braga took over.)

 

[Ranger REG]

IIRC, the Kazons had reinforcement coming.

 

[reapersaurus]

I'm glad my casual Trek observation is shared by those more in the know than I.

It was an actual DECISION she made to strand the ship there, without exploring the obvious options?

I remembered it was just a bad call, but that borders on lunacy.
Certainly not a very inventive decision, and it smacks of.... "2-Dimensional Thinking".

P.S. Ya, a delayed-timer explosive set for 5 seconds after they get out of there is beyond the technology or capability of the Star Trek universe.

 

[Tsyr]

I'm glad my casual Trek observation is shared by those more in the know than I.

It was an actual DECISION she made to strand the ship there, without exploring the obvious options?

I remembered it was just a bad call, but that borders on lunacy.
Certainly not a very inventive decision, and it smacks of.... "2-Dimensional Thinking".

P.S. Ya, a delayed-timer explosive set for 5 seconds after they get out of there is beyond the technology or capability of the Star Trek universe.

Heck, no need to even get that sophisticated... just fire a full volly of photon torpedos a half second before you jump out.

 

[Ranger REG]

You're going to trust an alien device's function to work exactly as it should, fire a volley as a Kazon reinforcement approaching, and then "jump" out without realizing if you completely destroy the device?

 

[Tsyr]

You're going to trust an alien device's function to work exactly as it should, fire a volley as a Kazon reinforcement approaching, and then "jump" out without realizing if you completely destroy the device?

As opposed to strand the crews whos lives are my personal responsibility and (as far as she knew) doom them to never see their home or family again? Yes. At least it's a shot.