Why does everyone hate drow?

Why do I hate Drow? Because of Drizzt! One of my first character I ever made in D&D was an elf Ranger who used two long swords. I was ten had no idea who the hell Drizzt was. But now because of him every time I go to a game and pull out my Elf with two longswords people scream Drizzt clone. When in reality all the characters have in common nis the fact they like to duel wield swords.
 

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Bloodstone Press said:
I think some of the dislike of drow stems from the 2e drow that was very munchkiny...

That is the reasoning behind the dislike for 2e elves in general, drow in particular.

Nothing beats the bishi creepiness of witnessing a drow bladesinger.
 

Bloodstone Press said:
I think some of the dislike of drow stems from the 2e drow that was very munchkiny...
2e elves in general were very overpowered and annoying, thanks mostly to The Complete Book of Elves.

In fact, that particular suppliment was so gawd-awful that I haven't been able to look at elves with anything other than hatred and disgust ever since reading it.
 

Overused, no. Misunderstood and camped up to ridiculous proportions, yes.

I played in an all-too-brief drow campaign way back in 2e, just after R.A. Salvatore's Drow trilogy came out. We were all psyched about inter-house politics, schemes, wars, you name it. One of the players was uncomfortable with the idea of being truly evil, and decided that her character was a secret worshiper of Eilistraee. While this gave us some good tension in the group (my character was Chaotic Neutral, so I had some leeway in how I treated people), it gave the DM a mandate to throw EVERYTHING at us. We had demons, illithids, pet beholders, TONS of spiders, and an entire city out for our blood. All because one player had heard too much about the over-the-top evil drow, and couldn't reconcile herself playing a character that was an actual member of that society. The game quickly became just another Underdark dungeon crawl, with us having the sole advantage of having been FROM the Underdark instead of from the surface.

Don't overstate the BoVD style of drow that everyone imagines them to be. By introducing subtle shades of difference (a CN house that is a little nicer to their slaves, or a NE house that isn't quite so selfish [at least amongst themselves]), you can keep the backstabbing down to a minimum, and give the characters longer role-playing time in the Underdark before the fit hits the shan and they have to either cut and run or stand and fight. Remember, they're chaotic FIRST. Before they were evil, they were chaotic, just like their cousins up on the surface. That allows you some latitude.
 


I think you just need to try a fresh perspective. The only Drow character I ever played was a female drow Cleric/Fighter/Theif in 1E - Eliza Breetar "The Shameless One" - she was different in that, instead of being dark and mysterious, she was a sun-worshipping nymphomaniac - and no, it wasn't graphic, it was more just of a character trait, behind the scenes, and it manifested most directly when she'd try intimacy with strange and wonderous creatures, such as a Gorn or a Vampire. She was, in some sense, comic relief after so many serious campaigns. She was fun to play and she most definitely did NOT wield two scimitars, and anyone she looked at lustily (which was pretty much everyone / thing) would find that she'd leave NOTHING to either mystery or imagination. She was the anti-drow drow. An open, non-mysterious, sun-worshipping, humorous addition to any party. After playing her, I can never think of the drow as the cliche that they were, and I don't think anyone else who played with her in the game could see them that way, either. So if you want to get rid of the cliche drow, just have a character like Eliza in the mix, PC or NPC, and you'll quickly see the facade vanish... (though noone in my group read any of the Drizzt books. Come to think of it, this was probably before they were published).
 

Sundragon2012 said:
Give them some depth and some motivation and have the females be more than just ebony skinned dominatixes who are the fulfillment of the hidden fantasies of seemingly many folks.

But, then there would be nothing at all to like about drow. :p
 


I'm not exactly sure why I hate drow. I think it's because they're supposed to have be dark and mysterious, but instead I just find their personalities, culture, and religion just plain annoying. Plus I hate elves, so that might have something to do with it too.
 

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