D&D 5E Why (IMO) fighter maneuvers have gotten worse each packet.

[Garthanos]

The two examples I gave of removal of a restiction is the same as adding the adverse ability ie you have two abilities but they are just an upgrade I further didnt say what the design cost of such an upgrade is ... the numbers really arent scaling at all. Its kind of lke I have a fire ball that burns things which burn normally withing fire restrictions and now it burns under water, and now it burns fire elementals.. sure its increased power but its not like its scaling the damage.. just the breadth.

 

[YRUSirius]

No, no, Garthanos' example was more in the vein of 3E's cleave and greater cleave. The first enables you to make an additional attack if you strike someone down - the only restriction: you can only do this once per round. Greater cleave removes this restriction. The individual attack doesn't improve.

I'm all for KISS in my game, so I'll merge Parry and Protect into one class feature for my KISS basic D&D game. But hey, enough of that. I'm surely annoying y'all.

-YRUSirius

 

[Garthanos]

I may collapse parry and protect myself... its more heroic... just like I want parry to affect ranged weapons at minimum I can personally parry thrown weapons and a sheild should let you parry anything man I hated the changes they made.

My example didnt increase the number of extra shots you could make (due to the reaction cost) it just made the condition you got them under more certain no matter the adversaries competence and no matter your relative armoring/defense.

 

[YRUSirius]

I'm just remembering a scene in The Fellowship of the Ring, where Aragorn "parries" an orc arrow in the last battle scene to defend Boromir, right?

-YRUSirius

 

[triqui]

Well, I'll playtest the game with my houserule and will see how my players will react to it.

-YRUSirius

Players are always happy to have freebies. If you give them Cleave for free they'll be happy too. That doesn't mean it makes any sense that the sharpshooter has cleave, from a design point of view.

 

[YRUSirius]

If it makes sense to my players (and it doesn't unbalance the game for some players) that's all I need.

-YRUSirius

 

[Garthanos]

The Dwarves in the hobbit Parry arrows too.. and even though its perhaps a Hollywoodism its not that extreme at all.

Also hand me a Katana or shinai stand back 10 paces or so and hurl ping pong ball sized sand/rice bags at me as fast as you can. If I am doing nothing else the chances of hitting me are slim.

 

[Garthanos]

I am picturing arrows going through one enemy and skewering their nearby friend.