Why must a loving soul be so alone...

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Queen_Dopplepopolis said:
Am I alone in thinking that going to church with the express purpose to get chicks is ... wrong?

You'd have to know my roommate. The phrase "no morals" comes to mind.
 

Darth K'Trava said:
It's better than the "enemies" list... ;)

Maybe, but neither one of 'em is getting laid.


But I feel that it should be friends first, lovers second. Only because it'd be nice to have them still be friends no matter how the relationship turns out.... If it gets serious, then COOL, but if it doesn't, then there's being friends. Which is alot better than hating one another. Life's too short to hate people.

No, I second TB here. Women rarely sleep with their "friends". Any guy will tell you this. Being a "friend" to a girl is a deathwish for a guy who is actually interested in the girl. No, the order should be:
Lust
Friendship

In that order. That's what happened with my wife and I. We're great friends now, but sometimes I miss the "lust" phase of our relationship. :)
 


der_kluge said:
You'd have to know my roommate. The phrase "no morals" comes to mind.
I know plenty of those types. Back before my married days - there were plenty of young men at my church that had no reason to be there outside of scoring a hot innocent Christian girl... but - at the same time - there were plenty of young women there happy to play that game.

Church is a *really* interesting place.
 

der_kluge said:
Maybe, but neither one of 'em is getting laid.




No, I second TB here. Women rarely sleep with their "friends". Any guy will tell you this. Being a "friend" to a girl is a deathwish for a guy who is actually interested in the girl. No, the order should be:
Lust
Friendship

In that order. That's what happened with my wife and I. We're great friends now, but sometimes I miss the "lust" phase of our relationship. :)


I'd be more apt to sleep with a friend than a stranger. I'd like to KNOW the guy I'm gonna sleep with!

Frankly, you guys need to get your brains out of your Levi's and actually THINK for once! :] We women would like to have more than just sex, ya know.
 


Teflon Billy said:
Terrible advice. Truly terrible.

You will be placed on her "Good Friends" list in no time flat.

I post this to every thread like this, and it is always true: be a bit mean and indifferent towards her.

I have no idea why women go for it, but they do.

I'll post a quote from another thread by ..well...me

I agree this works in a great many instances, but not all. In my single days, I played the nice guy card, and consequently dated a LOT. The relationships started out as "he's such a nice guy to be friends with" and the majority of those ended up being "friends with benefits". I had a friend who was a big proponent of TB's approach (which is not a wrong or bad approach, mind you) and he used to gripe that I dated 3 girls to his one.

So in the end, just use the approach that you are most comfortable with. It will pay off in the end, and whatever you want the "pay off" to be (platonic or something else) it will be worth it.
 

What worked for me:

1. Having a sense of humor.
2. Being able to give a good massage.
3. Making chocolate mousse cheesecake.
4. Knowing what I wanted from a woman and not wasting (much) time with those who didn't meet my few core requirements.

Edit - and as for what TB said, I'm not sure being mean and indifferent is the key (though I do believe that could work in many cases) so much as not being *dependent* on a woman for your happiness. An "I can take it or leave it" attitude is the way to go.
 
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