Why no FR-style campaign books for the World of Greyhawk


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Each of the old settings has its fans...but apparently not enough of them.

I am glad to see WotC licensing out Ravenloft and Gamma World. Maybe there's more where that came from. But I suspect Greyhawk is further down the list --- I just can't see any other company getting to play in that sandbox.

I suspect the one-shots will continue if Ghostwalk sells reasonably well, but I think they will tend to be self-contained, unusual settings which could easily be inserted into other worlds.
 

I find it a bit odd that although the core books use the Greyhawk pantheon and include Mordenkaiden's and Tenser's spells in the spell list, there are no setting books for Greyhawk, but there are for Forgotten Realms, which is not even mentioned in the core books. Just a thought.
 

Angcuru said:
I find it a bit odd that although the core books use the Greyhawk pantheon and include Mordenkaiden's and Tenser's spells in the spell list, there are no setting books for Greyhawk, but there are for Forgotten Realms, which is not even mentioned in the core books. Just a thought.

They make mention of the Forgotten Realms in your core books, Angcuru!

Or didn't you see the "Elminster's God-Condom" spell I wrote into your PHB last night yet?

Seriously, I'd love to have a Greyhawk setting book, finally clear up a lot of things for me. It looks like it's a setting that I'd like a lot, a lot grittier seeming than FR.
 

Bear in mind that the best-selling book of any setting is always the core setting book. This is the entire idea behind WotCs philosophy. They allow a setting they own to be leased out (ala Wheel of Time) but they retain rights to make the first book. As the first book sells the most, WotC takes the lion's share of the sales for that book. Hence, 1-shot settings like OA, Ghostwalk, Wheel of Time, etc are very profitable to WotC (while pleasing fans). Additionally, afterwards if they hand over the liscence, fans are even more pleased by the continuation of their favorite setting. As long as the company who is given the liscence can make enough money to keep themselves in business, everyone wins.

This analysis does not explain why there has not been a Greyhawk Setting book up until now. I would bear in mind that all of the "core" books are usually defaultly set in Greyhawk, like the splatbooks. This is because any supplements are written with the intent that you only have the core 3 books (or in the case of Forgotten Realms, the core books and FRCS), an admirable way of doing business.

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As some of you may know from my posts in the past I am a huge Greyhawk fan. I have enjoyed it all from 1e through 2e and the little bit that has come out for 3e.

The Living Greyhawk Gazetteer is the setting book for 3e. I think it's a great book, though I wish it was a hardcover and had a better map. I would like to have more GH books but WotC has been very vocal that there will be no such books and that they will not license GH out to anybody. :( IIRC EGG said that he doesn't want to write GH anymore because the world is radically different from what he would have done with it.

Hopefully one day, if there is enough support, WotC will listen to it's customers and produce more GH books, until then we just have to be satisfied with the LGJ in Drago... uh... I mean Dungeon magazine. The work in the LGJ has been excellent and I hope it continues.
 
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blackshirt5 said:
It looks like it's a setting that I'd like a lot, a lot grittier seeming than FR.
Well, grittier than the FR that are described in the setting book. Y'see, the time gap between the description of the FRs in the book and in MY game is about....185 years.:D Things are a LOT grittier.;) A war continent-wide war between godspawn will do that.:)
 
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Some people have mentioned licensing out Greyhawk.

Probably won't work right now because who would get it?

AEG has it's own setting.

Sword & Sorcery has multiple settings.

Mongoose has mutiple settings.

Goodman Games has it's own setting coming out.

Fantasy Flight Games has multiple settings.

Green Ronin might make a good choice but they've got Freeport and the Mythic Vistas now.

Not too many big boys left after you get those out of the scene.
 

Y'know, I thought I had read something about KenzerCo getting permission to do Greyhawk stuff. Does that sound familiar to anyone, or am I confused?
 


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