Wild Mage with Practiced Spellcaster?

[Abstraction]

Would this work? Wild Mage prestige class from CA gives you a permanent -3 hit on caster level, but you roll 1d6 to add to your caster level when you cast. Would Practiced Spellcaster mean that you cast at your level, plus 1d6? This could be quite powerful!

 

[UltimaGabe]

I wouldn't allow it, and any DM with half of a mind wouldn't allow it either.

 

[Thanee]

It doesn't work.

Practiced Spellcaster is a permanent change to your caster level, while Wild Magic only applies during the casting of a spell, thus Practiced Spellcaster has already been applied and it is not reapplied every time you cast a spell (only when you gain a level).

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

Wild Mage prestige class from CA gives you a permanent -3 hit on caster level, ...

Nope, that's not what it does.

It only gives you the -3 during spellcasting, same as the +1d6.

Bye
Thanee

 

[3d6]

Practiced Spellcaster can't increase your caster level to greater than your character level. Thus, the +1d6 caster level overrides Practiced Spellcaster, so you basically take the 1d6 or the Practiced Spellcaster caster level bonus, whichever is better.

 

[Thanee]

Not really. It works like this.

During level up you check, whether your caster level is lower than your Hit Dice. If so, you apply Practiced Spellcaster (as much as +4 to your caster level, or your Hit Dice, whichever is lower).

During spellcasting, Wild Magic lowers your caster level by 3 and then adds +1d6. This can, of course, be higher than your Hit Dice (but it could also be lower, the range is from -2 to +3 of your regular caster level (which includes any bonuses from Practiced Spellcaster)).

Bye
Thanee

 

[Abstraction]

No books in front of me at the moment, but I am pretty sure that Wild Magic lowers your caster level when you level, permanently. If there were some reason you needed to check your caster level without casting a spell, it would still be at -3 (say for instance qualifying for feats or PrC). This is offset by the random increase, but only when you cast a spell.

 

[Thanee]

Nope it says...

She reduces her caster level by 3 for all spells she casts from now on.

Hence, only for (or during) spellcasting.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Scion]

Now, who is willing to put up the full relevant text for both abilities for comparison? I think that would be legal for fair use in order to see how they interact and discuss it

 

[Judas]

Running this through my head... (I do have the book in front of me.)

+1 level of exsisting class.
The character gains new spells per day (and spells known, if applicable) as if he had also gained a level in a spellcasting class he belonged to before he added the prestige class. He does not, however, gain any other benefit a character of that class would have gained.

Practiced Spellcaster : Only the context
Your caster level for the chosen spellcasting class increases by 4. This benefit can't increase your caster level higher than your Hit Dice.

Wild Magic
A wild mage casts spells differently from any other arcane spellcaster. She reduces her caster level by 3 from now on. However, every time she casts a spell, her use of wild magic adds 1d6 to her adjusted caster level.

As it looks to me, Practiced Spellcaster could be used to offset the -3 placed by wild magic.

Wiz10/Rgr5 has Practiced Spellacster. He casts at 14th level power (Save DC's and SR). Next level takes Wild Mage which has +1 level to exsisting arcane spellcasting class. Now he casts at 15th level, but wait he gets the -3 casting adjustment (Note that it's not declared as a PENALTY) so now he's based at 12th level plus 1d6 level adjustment when he casts, so we have a possible 13th to 18th level spell.

Allthough this is a powerfull situation, I don't see any rules being broken.