Will sales of Arcane Power prove WotC right?

Let me give you personal anectdotle evidence of their choice.

I wanted to buy the PDF. They do not offer it to me. I did not buy the hard copy. Lost sale, directly by their action.

I represent a group of 7 players. In that group one player bought a book, for all of us to use as necessary with the compendium being used in general.

Now, 1 book vs what would of been 5 pdf purchases and 2 book purchases.

PDF would of run probably $20 or so. And the book can be bought on Amazon for $17.

They made 17 dollars. (actually Amazon did, Wizards made closer to 8 off the book in question.

What would of been $134. (Or more likely $15 per pdf as pure profit sharing with RPGNOW, and 8 per hardcopy with whomever buys it.)

Tell me.. 1 book vs the equivalent of 7.

And who loses? Wizards, because of their over the top retarded (in the dictionary sense) reaction. The factor about PH2 being sold out, and pirated 10-1, and yet is still was sold out is incredible. Because as much as I'm a book lover in pdf form now, I know many others require the tactile response of a book, a book they can see in their library.

It still boggles the mind that they stopped taking in revenue that was assured. And tried to rely on an older method, that isn't as friendly.

I'm glad Greg Leeds came out and spoke about it. But to me this is just an outright failure. It took the pirates 10 days to pirate and ocr the book. That's it? And who loses? Wizards, and those of us who would of bought a pdf. And now they don't have a way to track who the users of it are, there is no method to find out who in Poland bought it and had it pirated.

This is why, companies have to have reality checks before they implement a drastic idea like this.

They lost money directly from my pocket. It's gone. I won't spend it on them. Unless they offer me a copy of the book in pdf format like all the others I've bought of theirs right up until this great debacle.
 

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Now that WotC is no longer selling .pdf files -- and therefore, there will be no OEF versions to pirate* -- do you think that sales of Arcane Power will go through the roof? What about all future 4th edition books?

What WotC did won't effect sales of 4.0 products. If someone wants the pdf, it is there. The only effect of WotC's action will be to cut a revenue source for them. Just like the music industry did in the 90's.
 

What WotC did won't effect sales of 4.0 products. If someone wants the pdf, it is there. The only effect of WotC's action will be to cut a revenue source for them. Just like the music industry did in the 90's.

Until they start offering it another way, like they say they are looking to do.
 


Unless it is something you can own permanently on your own computer and make backups, it won't fly.
I have to agree with you here, Kask. White Wolf went through this a few years ago with the Adobe DRM issue on their products on RPGNow. It touched off a huge firestorm of complaints that make what we've seen now look mild in comparison. Is there other technology out there that's comparable and somehow can't be pirated? Not that I know of. And this is an issue that I'm concerned enough about to actually keep up with.

The best bid that WotC has to capture the market for electronic information is the one they already have: the DDI. Unfortunately that's not available offline.

--Steve
 

I have to agree with you here, Kask. White Wolf went through this a few years ago with the Adobe DRM issue on their products on RPGNow. It touched off a huge firestorm of complaints that make what we've seen now look mild in comparison. Is there other technology out there that's comparable and somehow can't be pirated? Not that I know of.

--Steve

I do not know of any myself, and I'm sure he hackers will break any protections in a matter of hours or days. It is not hard to see where the computer talent is.

I think WOTC should offer some kind of pdf style product online as people have a need for it. And denying legal copies is essentially meaningless, as many posters have note that it only took about 10 days for illegal pdfs to show up.

Selling pdfs does make some money, and that is a revenue stream that can only grow. I am not sure DDI is a revenue stream that will only grow.
 


For you, and some others. But I think for a lot of people, there can be another solution that is good enough.

Yes, people forget there's a middle road to DRM. There's the people who think DRM is an utter necessity, there's the other people who think DRM should never be used. I don't like the content industry trying to force things like a "broadcast flag"--at least where legitimate uses like time-shifiting is done, but I also don't like Stallman's deliberate manipulation of the language by coining memes like "Digital Restrictions Management".

But realistically, there's a middle road and likely compromise. I don't like DRM when it interferes with legitimate use, and I've been burned before by some digital formats that stopped working on me--so I am unlikely to buy digital music just yet.

Yet, I have games that use the so-called "dreaded" SecureROM and I use Steam, and I've never experienced a problem. (Steam occasionally has some wonkiness but they are temporary in nature).

The key is accessibility and making sure some consumer rights are protected. I mean, DRM is the same as locking your property and protecting money from counterfeiting. I don't buy the "no DRM, ever" argument since I think a lot of people are scared if things get locked down the "free ride" will end on piracy.
 

I'd really like to see the daily sales numbers for Martial Power and Arcane Power.

If there's a dip or spike in ArcP's sales after the PDF starts to appear (after 4 days? or 10 days?), then we can start to talk about how free PDFs interact with book sales.

"Talking about it anyway", -- N
 

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