The Shaman
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Bring it, oh over-the-hill one.Bobitron said:Let's spam this game up, Barak. Between the two of us we can keep Shaman busy for every hour he's away from work!![:]](http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png "Devious :]")
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A very happy birthday to you!
The Shaman
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I received an e-mail from Shadow - his computer should be operational in a day or two.
I enjoyed that so much the first time, I thought I'd repost it.The Shaman said:Dude...Marcel got beat by an EIGHT-YEAR-OLD GIRL!
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I note that today is the anniversary of Charles deGaulle's death.
It is arguable that the behavior (or misbehavior) of our characters and their commanders contribute to his government, and even to the events of the last fifty years in France at least with regard to its demographics. What a shame about the last few weeks in France.
On MSN I noted this:
"On 27 October, the deaths of two African teenagers sparked off riots in poor northeastern suburbs of Paris. As of today, the riots have spread to more than 300 French cities and urban unrest is growing in other European countries. While the deaths of the youths were the catalyst to the violence, other factors are involved, including the language used by Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy to describe his plans to fight crime.
Vous en avez assez de cette bande de racaille ? Eh bien, on va vous en débarrasser.
These words were spoken by French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy during a visit to Argenteuil on 25 October. English-language newspapers have translated this as "You've had enough of this band of scum? Well, we're going to get rid of them for you," which doesn't quite do justice to the word racaille. Sub-human, evil, worthless, and dregs of society would be closer to the mark.
In recent months, Sarkozy has also referred to hoodlums as "gangrene," and has talked about the need to nettoyer au Kärcher (or Kärchériser) certain cities. The English translation of this in the news, "to clean," is wholly inadequate. A Kärcher is a brand of power washer, and thus Sarkozy's suggestion of "power washing" to get rid of certain populations smacks of ethnic cleansing. Small wonder that these remarks helped to inflame underprivileged French youths already dealing with racism on a daily basis."[/
The spirit of the Algerian War is still extant.
It is arguable that the behavior (or misbehavior) of our characters and their commanders contribute to his government, and even to the events of the last fifty years in France at least with regard to its demographics. What a shame about the last few weeks in France.
On MSN I noted this:
"On 27 October, the deaths of two African teenagers sparked off riots in poor northeastern suburbs of Paris. As of today, the riots have spread to more than 300 French cities and urban unrest is growing in other European countries. While the deaths of the youths were the catalyst to the violence, other factors are involved, including the language used by Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy to describe his plans to fight crime.
Vous en avez assez de cette bande de racaille ? Eh bien, on va vous en débarrasser.
These words were spoken by French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy during a visit to Argenteuil on 25 October. English-language newspapers have translated this as "You've had enough of this band of scum? Well, we're going to get rid of them for you," which doesn't quite do justice to the word racaille. Sub-human, evil, worthless, and dregs of society would be closer to the mark.
In recent months, Sarkozy has also referred to hoodlums as "gangrene," and has talked about the need to nettoyer au Kärcher (or Kärchériser) certain cities. The English translation of this in the news, "to clean," is wholly inadequate. A Kärcher is a brand of power washer, and thus Sarkozy's suggestion of "power washing" to get rid of certain populations smacks of ethnic cleansing. Small wonder that these remarks helped to inflame underprivileged French youths already dealing with racism on a daily basis."[/
The spirit of the Algerian War is still extant.
Bobitron
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Shibata, if you choose to wander about on this site, be cautious what you post. There is a strict anti-politics rule.
Here in this thread, however, Shaman is boss until a moderator comes along.
While I agree that there are some scary reflections of days past in Sarkozy's comments, I can't say for certain that the comments would be any different if the mobs were composed mostly of disaffected and underprivileged white kids.
Here in this thread, however, Shaman is boss until a moderator comes along.
While I agree that there are some scary reflections of days past in Sarkozy's comments, I can't say for certain that the comments would be any different if the mobs were composed mostly of disaffected and underprivileged white kids.
Yeah, without going too deep into the politics of it, while his words take on a lot of meaning/strenght (in a bad way) due to the context, I wouldn't be surprised if, to him, the context wasn't what spurred the words.
And I have to say, "to clean" is a darn accurate translation of "nettoyer". There would have been ways, in french, to give it more strenght, and it wasn't done.
I can't really say about the appropriateness of the racaille=scum translation, since racaille is pretty much slang not used in Montréal.
Edit: Oops. I sorta missed the "Karcher" thing, and know nothing of it either.
And I have to say, "to clean" is a darn accurate translation of "nettoyer". There would have been ways, in french, to give it more strenght, and it wasn't done.
I can't really say about the appropriateness of the racaille=scum translation, since racaille is pretty much slang not used in Montréal.
Edit: Oops. I sorta missed the "Karcher" thing, and know nothing of it either.
The Shaman
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In deference to the site code of conduct, I'll just say that the events in France are unfortunate indeed - the consequences of the different birth rates north and south of the Mediterranean are likely to produce the most important demographic change in the Western world over the next twenty-five years. Worse still, this is what fuels the right-wing ideologues, just as it has for centuries.
But for now, we have an insurrection to quell...!
But for now, we have an insurrection to quell...!
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