D&D 5E With the release of each new setting book, the SCAG looks worse and worse...

[Alzrius]

I'm guessing the wiki just hasn't been updated recently, as the two Waterdeep adventures were published in 2018 and Baldur's Gate: Decent to Avernus was published last year.

I only have Dungeon of the Mad Mage, but a quick glance at its credits doesn't show Ed Greenwood's name as being among them (save for being one of the authors of a different book that was referenced for that one). Presuming that's the same for the other two, that would be why the wikis don't list them, since they're his bibliographies.

Now, that's presuming that the supposed contract is based around his having Realms material published in a given year, rather than any Realms material published; that latter interpretation is one I hadn't heard before, and honestly sounds even more suspect to me.

 

[dave2008]

Now, that's presuming that the supposed contract is based around his having Realms material published in a given year, rather than any Realms material published; that latter interpretation is one I hadn't heard before, and honestly sounds even more suspect to me.

Just a thought: for this "contract," what happens when Ed dies? Obviously he can't contribute anymore, nor can he have the rights. Do the rights transfer to his estate or WotC on breach of contract after his death?

 

[dave2008]

yeah and? Those aren’t readily available right now as they aren’t in print. And some is post Sundering. Not published but extrapolated. I’m bowing out of this because man, some people don’t get it. Really don’t get it. I get what you all are saying, but your answers just aren’t resolutions to the issue. They are half cocked answers and essentially telling people to shut up.

Sorry, I came to this discussion late and on a quick review I couldn't find it: what is your point? What is that people don't get? What is the issue?

 

[Parmandur]

Just a thought: for this "contract," what happens when Ed dies? Obviously he can't contribute anymore, nor can he have the rights. Do the rights transfer to his estate or WotC on breach of contract after his death?

It seems to me that maybe Greenwood and TSR had some unconventional deal in place, but given that Adkinson went around with a Magic-fueled checkbook balancing all of TSR's bad blood in the 90's, I highly doubt that the 80's is what is in place with WotC now. WotC wouldn't lean on IP they don't own straight up.

 

[Alzrius]

Just a thought: for this "contract," what happens when Ed dies? Obviously he can't contribute anymore, nor can he have the rights. Do the rights transfer to his estate or WotC on breach of contract after his death?

I was wondering what would happen if (God forbid) Ed ever fell into a coma or something, but yeah, little details like that are the sort of thing that would need to be in there if this contract were real, but somehow never seem to be part of the conversation about it.

 

[dave2008]

I would love to see WOTC do smaller adventures for sure. Small cost staple bound books are not that expensive to produce. I know, everyone is going to say "DMSguild" but that doesn't support GAME STORES. We used to be a culture all about supporting the FLGS, what happened to that? I just don't see a lot of that on these boards anymore. It's really sad to me.

Of the 5e releases, Theros is the first book I've gotten (pre-ordered) that was not from my FlGS, and the only reason for that is the store is not likely to be open when it releases (because of covid-19). I always try to support my FLGS, and honestly I see similar comments from other's on these forums.

 

[teitan]

Sorry, I came to this discussion late and on a quick review I couldn't find it: what is your point? What is that people don't get? What is the issue?

I said it multiple times, I don't purchase PDFs anymore and there are people who want a new FRCG and the reasons people give for why they won't do it are ignoring that Eberron is basically the same as the 3.5 and 4e edition with minor lore changes with classes and races updated to 5e. To keep directing people to pdf sites or wikipedia articles is essentially the same as telling those asking why no FRCG to stop complaining. WOTC has also shown they have no issue with reprinting material in various books. Telling people to suck it up and buy a $50 book for ten to 40 pages of material is insensitive and 5-20 years ago we would be marching with torches and pitchforks over such a dollar to page count ratio. Just 6 years ago people were up in arms about the price of the core books jumping from $35 to$50 each and talking about needing to support the local game store and in this thread it seems people are more than willing to chuck the game store out the window in favor of PDFs and Wiki pages because they don't want an FRCG themselves.

Personally I am satisfied with SCAG. It is concise and doesn't overwhelm with detail. I would like to see the setting material from the Adventures reprinted in a collection of just that material. It would make a nice reference but I personally have plenty of stuff right now anyway so it's not a big deal to me. I am mostly playing devil's advocate.

 

[Badvoc]

Of the 5e releases, Theros is the first book I've gotten (pre-ordered) that was not from my FlGS, and the only reason for that is the store is not likely to be open when it releases (because of covid-19). I always try to support my FLGS, and honestly I see similar comments from other's on these forums.

This is why I like the idea of alternate cover books only being available through bricks and mortar stores rather than Amazon and the like. I'd generally rather pay a bit more and support a FLGS.