Wizards: Musings on the new DDi disaster

[MENTION=3586]MerricB[/MENTION] Excellent post. I will be including this in my weekly report to WotC.



Just want to clarify - I do not work for WotC, nor am I privy to any of their internal data. I am just a volunteer on their boards.
I'd also like to clarify that i meant 'when WotC made the announcement' not 'when mudbunny' made the announcement'. mudbunny did nothing more than give some further insight into that announcement within the bounds of what he was allowed.

Sorry if this lead to a strange comparison of yourself as representing WotC.

I certainly hope you don't feel that the finger is being pointed at you in any way shap or form. All of your comments and insight are massively appreciated.
 

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Well I wasn't talking about you, you've made it quite clear that in general you've been pretty happy with WotC, their practices and their products for awhile now... but there are quite a few who don't feel this way and I was just giving some reasons why.

that's fine... I was just talking on a message board. :)
 

This will be a fun thread to watch....

(grabs a pack of cigarettes, a coffee; sits back and smiles)

I basically agree with the OP sentiments but not all the specific points. For example, I think the Essentials products and packaging are mostly nifty. I've bought some. I think WotC has gone out of their way to ensure us that Essentials isn't 4.5. Good communication. However... too many other problems.

So much errata on 4e that some of my books feel much less useful. WotC has made so many products and most of these have so much errata that making characters without the CB is a nauseating idea to me. They made the CB the most critical product, IMO. Thus what has happened with the DDI/CB is just sad. The combination of the old CB not being updated adequately and the poor communication about it, with the poor release of the new CB is a pretty big error. I'm guessing that the management's need to get this product out on a specific timetable created more problems than it solved. The way this was communicated to the fan base only alienated people or kept people neutral - it didn't seem to make anyone more loyal or committed to WotC. To release this new CB with so much lacking (no export or houserules? These are minimum needs for a large % of players!) seems really short-sighted. And of course there were incredible problems today with the server.

I sort of feel bad for the programmers. I imagine they were/are in over their heads - either with the expectations or more likely the timetable given. And this is assuming that silverlight was the best choice for the CB and not just chosen b/c it was what was known by the programmers or b/c of the time constraints. If this wasn't the case, then its level of f'd-up-ness increases.

I generally consider myself a fanboy. But I have enough in my old CB to not need this new one for anytime soon at all (not using Dark Sun or Essential characters). I assume WotC will get most of these problems solved and in fact will surprise us with other good things to come....

... but still, as a company, I just feel that they taken way to many critical steps backwards recently. Most of us are, or at least feel, stuck with WotC and will not leave. Too many of us feel that WotC is more than a company b/c we are such avid consumers of their products. We feel like we are "owed" more than what we've seen recently... and yet most of us won't walk. I won't nor do I want to. But I do feel very comfortable with what I have at the moment and have no plans to expand.

On top of these problems, we still have many of the concerns we had when the on-line DDI was first announced. However, my biggest concern is that this monthly pay-to-use (i.e. pay-to-play b/c the CB is an ever-increasing necessity) makes it a lot tougher to bring in casual gamers and new gamers. I don't want to go back to AD&D, but I do miss how easy and simple it was to play.

I believe most of the WotC staff loves and cares about D&D just as much or more than we do. They want this to go down perfectly, but something is getting in their way. I hope they can find out what that is and solve this problem. Most of us won't be leaving D&D, but with these types of errors, I do worry about their ability to get new people into this game - which is a hard enough task already. If they can not succeed, then there will continue to be ever-increasing pressure to find more ways to get our income. This focus, rather that what would make the best gaming experience (and thus focus on increasing income through increasing the # of players), will lead to nowhere good in the long run.
 

First off, as a lawyer, I can tell you that Joe is right, there is no legal liability for WotC here, not even close (at least with respect to the DDi subscriptions anyway).

Secondly, I agree that it was unfortunate to say the least that the online version of the CB had so many problems on release day. I will assume (realizing the risks inherent therein) that the crashing and loading problems probably were unexpected and will give it a few days to see if those particular problems clear up. As much as I love D&D, I can live without accessing the new CB for a couple days.

Although I do not think going to an online version of the CB is a big deal, I do think it was a poor decision on WotC's part to release the new CB without many of the features of the old CB, and certainly there are significant enough bugs (even outside the crashing issue) that it should not have been released without fixing many of those bugs.

In the end, I don't think this is necessarily a disaster so much as a bad start to the online CB. What will determine whether or not its a disaster is how WotC responds to the problems. Will they fix the crash/loading issues quickly? Will bugs be fixed soon (i.e. will they implement each fix as they resolve it since its supposed to be easier to do with the online format, or will they wait until they can fix a lot of bugs?) How long will it take them to implement missing features -- particularly those features that were present in the original CB? Those, to me, are the major issues. There will always be bugs -- I've yet to use a single piece of software that didn't have bugs in it -- but how they respond to them will be the true test.

Finally, as an aside, I thought I read somewhere (realizing of course that it can only be taken with a grain of salt at most) that the online CB was a "part" of the something cool, in other words, not that the online CB was in fact the "something cool", so hopefully there is still more to come. Only time will tell of course.

All of this being said, kudos to Merric for a well-reasoned and non-inflammatory post and for everyone else pretty much following suit.
 

that's fine... I was just talking on a message board. :)

OK... we've had this problem with communication before, so let me clarify my way of thinking... I feel when you quote someone you are in some way commenting on their post (am I wrong in assuming this?). Thus I assume, when I am quoted... your comments will in some way relate to, or be a commentary on the point(s) I have expressed and/or brought up. If all you were doing was making a general comment on the message board that didn't relate to my post... why quote me?
 

I agree with some of the comments above - Mudbunny, thanks for your communication (as a non-WotC employee, understood). I think you were the most useful voice out there.
 

OK... we've had this problem with communication before, so let me clarify my way of thinking... I feel when you quote someone you are in some way commenting on their post (am I wrong in assuming this?). Thus I assume, when I am quoted... your comments will in some way relate to, or be a commentary on the point(s) I have expressed and/or brought up. If all you were doing was making a general comment on the message board that didn't relate to my post... why quote me?

Yes... You made a comment- and I commented on your comment based on my own perspective... (Because that's what people do- when they talk... and that's what message boards are for- talking to people about stuff that interests you... At least I thought? Maybe you have other ideas?)

You then said something that appeared to be an explanation for your statement- I was responding in kind...

I'm not sure where your confusion lies here man...
 

Yes... You made a comment- and I commented on your comment based on my own perspective... (Because that's what people do- when they talk... and that's what message boards are for- talking to people about stuff that interests you... At least I thought? Maybe you have other ideas?)

You then said something that appeared to be an explanation for your statement- I was responding in kind...

I'm not sure where your confusion lies here man...

I guess I often just have a hard time seeing how some of your post directly relate to what I am saying or expressing. No biggie.
 


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