World of Warcraft: The War Within

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Whilst this would make for a more appealing game for someone like me, there are those who see online gaming as a path to self validation. Which means if there is no really difficult content which they can use to show off how awesome they are they don’t think it’s worth playing. And as these are the people who are willing to shell out huge amounts of money in pursuit of displaying their awesomeness, the games companies are rewarded for pursuing that kind of player.

In my experience, the people who scream the most about difficult to obtain mounts from 15 years ago, or whatever, aren't actually doing that content. The folks who are in world-first raiding guilds or getting the gladiator mounts each season don't have time to complain on Wowhead that there's a smaller recolored dog mount that looks like the one that requires doing eeeeeverything in Dragonflight to obtain.

As someone who got the Herald of the Titans title in WotLK -- beating the hardest boss in Ulduar on a timed challenge mode while at the appropriate gear level -- everyone needs to calm down. There's no prestige in a low-poly ground mount you never use and if someone else gets it, maybe they'll actually enjoy it. This goes double for the people complaining pets from the old trading card game occasionally show up in the Trading Post for in-game currency. I've had the rocket chicken for 18 years now. It's a great pet, and I hope everyone gets it and enjoys it as much as I have.

(I also use the Herald of the Titans title on my main, as it's a lot better than also rare titles like Hand of Adal, which I don't think even Adal thinks is a cool title nowadays.)

 

[Scribe]

Sunwell though was just insanely overtuned and thus relied on you having geared the hell out of your raid, which was part of the problem, because it was hard "catch up" if you had lost people for any reason.

I played through it again in its 'Classic' mode, with a bunch of sweaty tryhards, and boy was it a different experience.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I played through it again in its 'Classic' mode, with a bunch of sweaty tryhards, and boy was it a different experience.

Ion mentioning that Classic is now played with people with modern expectations about doing stuff the "right" way and competing for their second-hand version of world first makes me want to stay the heck out of Classic.

 

[Scribe]

Ion mentioning that Classic is now played with people with modern expectations about doing stuff the "right" way and competing for their second-hand version of world first makes me want to stay the heck out of Classic.

It was fun. My raid in the original TBC was good, but not nearly as minmax. I find it fun to see how close to ideal you can get.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

It was fun. My raid in the original TBC was good, but not nearly as minmax. I find it fun to see how close to ideal you can get.

I went through so much raiding group drama the first time, I can't imagine signing up for a rerun. My raiding group finally exploded in a bunch of fingerpointing midway through Shadowlands and honestly, the peace and quiet since has been great.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I went through so much raiding group drama the first time, I can't imagine signing up for a rerun. My raiding group finally exploded in a bunch of fingerpointing midway through Shadowlands and honestly, the peace and quiet since has been great.

I sometimes miss raiding a bit, and I definitely miss being part of a nice guild (they seem to be basically impossible to find - it's all either massive do-nothing invite-everyone guilds, or very sweaty stuff where people get mad as hell if you can't do 4+ hours/night three days a week, perfectly scheduled), but god one thing I do not miss is guild drama, and unfortunately WoW's design seems more prone to cause that than most MMOs.

 

[overgeeked]

In my experience, the people who scream the most about difficult to obtain mounts from 15 years ago, or whatever, aren't actually doing that content. The folks who are in world-first raiding guilds or getting the gladiator mounts each season don't have time to complain on Wowhead that there's a smaller recolored dog mount that looks like the one that requires doing eeeeeverything in Dragonflight to obtain.

As someone who got the Herald of the Titans title in WotLK -- beating the hardest boss in Ulduar on a timed challenge mode while at the appropriate gear level -- everyone needs to calm down. There's no prestige in a low-poly ground mount you never use and if someone else gets it, maybe they'll actually enjoy it. This goes double for the people complaining pets from the old trading card game occasionally show up in the Trading Post for in-game currency. I've had the rocket chicken for 18 years now. It's a great pet, and I hope everyone gets it and enjoys it as much as I have.

(I also use the Herald of the Titans title on my main, as it's a lot better than also rare titles like Hand of Adal, which I don't think even Adal thinks is a cool title nowadays.)

I’m still Salty about my lack of Salty title.

I went through so much raiding group drama the first time, I can't imagine signing up for a rerun. My raiding group finally exploded in a bunch of fingerpointing midway through Shadowlands and honestly, the peace and quiet since has been great.

When I finally stopped being a raid healer the game became so much more enjoyable.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I’m still Salty about my lack of Salty title.

I wonder if that contest is particularly participated in nowadays. I see a lot of people doing the War Within version, but that's just racing the clock, not other people, and there's an expansion's worth of rewards to get.

 

[Scribe]

I went through so much raiding group drama the first time, I can't imagine signing up for a rerun. My raiding group finally exploded in a bunch of fingerpointing midway through Shadowlands and honestly, the peace and quiet since has been great.

Yeah, people get wound a bit tight. Still nothing compared to Ranking PvP drama in my experience, but those people become unhinged by the end if they are not cheating.

 

[trappedslider]

I stopped playing a month into the xpac due to adhd, I may at some point hop back into the game.