Worst RPG System You Ever Palyed?

[Akrasia]

Of course, the best way to continue this thread (were there one, perhaps the least bad way), would be to only state your own opinion and reasons, and then let it be...

I don't have a problem with people expressing their opinions about various games. On that people are bound to disagree -- just as they disagree in their opinions concerning films, music, or whatever.

But when people make factually incorrect claims about a game system (especially a system that you happen to like), or express their opinions as though they were facts, then it is hard to resist posting a reply.

It does not surprise me at all that a thread with this kind of topic is going to open up some heated debate. (And not just regarding C&C, which is a frequent topic of argument for some reason on these boards, but GURPs, WFRP, Shadowrun, etc., as well.)

 

[Cavalorn]

First response--impressive!

But "Fantasy Wargaming" by Bruce Galloway is the worst ever.

Do not criticise that work of genius! It had the best special ability description of all time:

God: 'Three persons. Can operate independently.'

 

[Akrasia]

It's all in the juxtaposition.

Juxtaposition of what? There's nothing being 'juxtaposed' in your post, or in the original quote.

Look, I understand if you're just trolling. But at least try to be somewhat clever about it.

 

[Kanegrundar]

Akrasia, Patryn was paying you a compliment. He thought what you said was witty in a funny way. There's no troll there.

Kane

 

[Akrasia]

Akrasia, Patryn was paying you a compliment. He thought what you said was witty in a funny way. There's no troll there.

Kane

I guess I'm a little dense today.

 

[Quasqueton]

But when people make factually incorrect claims about a game system (especially a system that you happen to like), or express their opinions as though they were facts, then it is hard to resist posting a reply.

If only the speaker would listen to his own words.

Quasqueton

 

[Akrasia]

If only the speaker would listen to his own words.

Quasqueton

Heh -- now that is a clear attempt at trolling.

Please, Quasqueton, point out my posts where I have confused my opinion with facts.

I have always tried my best to qualify any evaluative claim as my opinion.

If I have failed somewhere, I apologize. And I'd also be grateful to know where precisely I've failed.

Thanks for your help!

 

[Aus_Snow]

Anyway what Rpg system have you played in your years of gaming that you would have to say was the worst ever?

This took a little bit of deciding. OK no, there's a clear winner:

Spoiler

1st Edition Advanced Dungeons & Dragons.

*would dive for cover but is feeling lethargic atm, come what may*

 

[Turjan]

I don't have a problem with people expressing their opinions about various games. On that people are bound to disagree -- just as they disagree in their opinions concerning films, music, or whatever.

But when people make factually incorrect claims about a game system (especially a system that you happen to like), or express their opinions as though they were facts, then it is hard to resist posting a reply.

I just quote this because it's an important distinction. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but if the reasoning contains factual errors, I like to point this out. That's why I said something in defense of C&C, although the game doesn't even interest me and is far from being my "favorite One True Roleplaying Game".

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Akrasia, Patryn was paying you a compliment.

No, Kane, Akrasia's right. There's no compliment there. It's funny because Akrasia, a card-carrying member of the C&C Crusade / Inquisition, Akrasia was taking someone to task for voicing "opinion as fact."

Whereas, in this very thread, we find such delicious little statements as:

It is clear that the CK in question simply does not understand the whole point of C&C.

...

No. The problem is that the GM is obviously ill-suited to run this kind of game -- he obviously needs a lot of guidance in order to make basic decisions.

Lots of other GMs do *not* have the problems you describe with C&C. So no, your poor experience is *not* a result of some kind of 'fundamental problem' with the game itself.

You'll notice that Akrasia's rebutting the claim that there's an objective flaw in the rules by pointing out that some people don't have that problem. In other words, "You are presenting your opinion that there's a flaw in the rules as objective fact. This is simply not true; no flaw in the rules exists, and my basis is the opinions of other people."

Yeah, it's more than a little hypocritical.

And, egads:

But my more general point in that post was that *any* designer of *any* RPG probably should not post in this thread for purely pragmatic reasons.

Opinion presented as fact without a clear IMHO tag!