Worst sequel in movie history.

I always loved in the old Bond movies that whenever a car drove off a cliff it would burst into flames/explode BEFORE it hit the ground. I always got a chuckle out of that :)
 

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If you consider that a plane has more area (and thus wind-resistance) then a narrow Bond, then his ability to catch up to it in freefall, while still surprising, isn't -too- impossible. At least that's how I see it.

And personally, I love the new Bond films as much as the old ones, because I understand that Connery-Bond isn't the same as Moore-Bond or Brosnan-Bond. All three actors (and the lesser Bonds) put their own acting spins on the classic character. Connery was cool, calm and cold-blooded in combat. Moore was warm, charming and debonnaire, and was somewhat more light-hearted in the face of danger. Brosnan is calm and cool, but more serious and direct.

Also, like Canis pointed out, each major Bond is a product of his times. Connery was from the mid-60s, back when the Women's Liberation Movement was still in it's infancy, and women were still mostly considered sex-objects in the movies. Then came Moore's Bond, a product of the 70s, when social changes were rampant; Bond Girls stopped being just sex objects and began contributing, like Octopussy. Finally, Brosnan's Bond lives in a world where Connery-Bond's values are no longer true, and women are his equal. I can't think of a single Brosnan Bond movie where the Bond Girl isn't either an expert in a certain field, or a spy like Bond himself.

Times change, and so do Bond films over time.
 

LoneWolf23 said:
Also, like Canis pointed out, each major Bond is a product of his times. Connery was from the mid-60s, back when the Women's Liberation Movement was still in it's infancy, and women were still mostly considered sex-objects in the movies. Then came Moore's Bond, a product of the 70s, when social changes were rampant; Bond Girls stopped being just sex objects and began contributing, like Octopussy. Finally, Brosnan's Bond lives in a world where Connery-Bond's values are no longer true, and women are his equal.

In other words, Brosnan's Bond was neutered. :)

I actually hated the whole "misogynist dinosaur" comments about Bond...especially since in that very movie, Bond would have a pretty good case of sexual harrassment against Moneypenny. I hate this new Moneypenny. While the old one had a playful flirting with Bond, the new one is, well, a pig.

What's the female equivilant of "misogynist"?

I can't think of a single Brosnan Bond movie where the Bond Girl isn't either an expert in a certain field, or a spy like Bond himself.

How about Denise Richards, the world's most convincing nuclear scientist? And Halley Berry was next to useless.

Well, you didn't say they had to be convincing...:D
 

Villano said:
In other words, Brosnan's Bond was neutered. :)

I actually hated the whole "misogynist dinosaur" comments about Bond...especially since in that very movie, Bond would have a pretty good case of sexual harrassment against Moneypenny. I hate this new Moneypenny. While the old one had a playful flirting with Bond, the new one is, well, a pig.
She didn't strike me that way in the new ones I saw, but then, I haven't see the last two. I *despise* Halle Berry, and Denise Richards only surpasses Halle as an actress by a very narrow margin, so I couldn't bring myself to watch them.

As for the original Moneypenny, I really didn't consider it a playful flirting thing. It actually always struck me as kind of sad.
 

Canis said:
As for the original Moneypenny, I really didn't consider it a playful flirting thing. It actually always struck me as kind of sad.


I agree, once she got older, it did. But during the early movies, I liked the interaction. IIRC, in one of the films, Bond even showed a little jealousy when she took interest in other men.

Truth is, the early Moneypenny is my favorite Bond Girl. :)
 

I can't believe no one as mentioned the sequals to The Crow. That is one of my favorite movies and pretty much defined the "gothic punk" setting of the white wolf games. The sequals were so mind numbingly bad, cause they didn't have Brandon Lee, that I couldn't even watch them in their entirety.

Eldorian Antar
 

I agree with everyone that Highlander 2 was of course the worst sequel ever (in terms of both utterly trashing the original and being appallingly bad). The sequel that left me most gutted and angry though was Alien-3; as a sequel to Aliens. While not as bad as Highlander-2 at all levels, Alien-3 destroyed the previous movie at a much more visceral level.

Re Bond films; I find the current Pierce Brosnan ones unwatchable, they're just regular postmodern action movies with a few Bondish tropes. I'd quite like to see a Bond film as a period piece set in 1952 (say), where the post-WW2 protagonist's attitudes actually fit.
 

Worst sequels, hmmmm. Ok here's my picks:

Moonraker
Star Trek V
Superman III & IV

The most disappointing sequel, though I enjoyed it was:

The Matrix Reloaded. I hated that I didn't walk out of the theater with that WOW feeling I had after I saw The Matrix for the first time.

JediSoth
 

Alien 3 is a great movie. Matix Reloaded is a massive disappointment. All of the Crow sequels suck, but I wasn't impressed with the first one. I've never been able to understand why people have such a jones for the first Highlander movie...I thought it was awful. The second one, whilst incomprehensible, was kind of funny. If you want bad sequels, I'd have to go for the Jaws movies. The original is a classic, the sequels mediocrity defined. And no-one's mentioned Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?
 

The Temple Of Doom was mentioned, I think, but many people may rule it out since it is technically a prequel. Considering the star of the first Crow movie, Brandon Lee, died during the filming, it is not surprising the sequels were not as good.
 
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