WotC forums down for a week or two?

... but there is no credible scenario that permits a major company's website to be down for a week or two...

Respectfully, three points:

1) No snark was intended.

2) It is not "a major company's website". It is only the discussion forums. The rest of the site is still up. They're still doing business, in general.

3) Absolutes... aren't. "...no credible scenario..." is an absolute. While I will agree that if one has all the budget and resources one needs, there's no technical reason why downtime should have to happen. However, constraints of budget, resources, and time do happen. Especially in a subsystem that doesn't directly generate revenue. Business folks may find the second-order revenues of the system worth giving up for a while if it makes other things cheaper.

As with most of WotC's business decisions - we don't get to see the balance sheets, so our judgments are purely speculative.
 

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I am wondering why after Gencon? Why not before Gencon?

They announce Dark Sun for 2010 at Gencon. The Dark Sun Forums exploded with activity this weekend, and now this. The Forums may be down the rest of the month. It also looks as if the Athus.org site is down.

Sometimes I wonder about Wizards.

Hopefully this isn't Gleemax TNG.
 

I am wondering why after Gencon? Why not before Gencon?
Before GenCon everyone was talking about what was going to happen at GenCon. If it had happened then, someone would be saying, "Why not after GenCon?"

Personally, I don't really see the big deal; at least it wasn't down during GenCon.

They announce Dark Sun for 2010 at Gencon. The Dark Sun Forums exploded with activity this weekend, and now this. The Forums may be down the rest of the month. It also looks as if the Athus.org site is down.
Athas.org is up, but "Athus.org" doesn't appear to be (whatever it is). At any rate, I don't believe either site is maintained by WotC.

Sometimes I wonder about Wizards.

Hopefully this isn't Gleemax TNG.
Why the pessimism?
 

Maybe it's not as simple as a software upgrade. Now I'm not as tech savvy as some of you might be, but doesn't "upgrade the platform" generally mean they are also switching out the hardware.
Quite possibly, although generally you wouldn't need any more downtime for a hardware upgrade. You'd stand them both up side by side, test the new system while the old is running and then do a "software" switchover (trying to be as non-technical as possible here).
:)

In fact, not having new hardware and the old hardware not being capable of running both systems side-by-side is actually a possible reason for a longer outage, but that (IME) is indicative of poor management/process.

I'm sure with something like a forum there would be data conversion issues and a period where you'd need to do a hard outage (or at least a read-only period), unless you have the big bucks for real-time data replication across systems running different hardware and software, but as Ulorian said, IME those outages are measured in hours (tops), not days. And I've been involved in some fairly tricky data conversions with financial and regulatory implications which I'm sure WotC don't have to worry about - worst case they'd lose a couple of forum posts here and there.

So yeah, while I'm not arrogant enough to think I know everything, my experience tells me that there's no good reason for an outage of this length, for the type of change/upgrade they're making.

Maybe next week WotC will announce that they're brought 4eBot online, integrating D&D Insider, spy satellites and robot drones and now anyone not playing 4e actually can expect a call from the robot gaming police. But I seriously doubt it...
:)
 
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So yeah, while I'm not arrogant enough to think I no everything, my experience tells me that there's no good reason for an outage of this length, for the type of change/upgrade they're making.
I can understand this, and I appreciate you civility. It's Ulorian's hostility that provoked people, so I mean it when I say that I appreciate you keeping your opinion in perspective, gribble. :)

Maybe next week WotC will announce that they're brought 4eBot online, integrating D&D Insider, spy satellites and robot drones and now anyone not playing 4e actually can expect a call from the robot gaming police. But I seriously doubt it...
:)
:cool: It's about time!
 

They announce Dark Sun for 2010 at Gencon. The Dark Sun Forums exploded with activity this weekend, and now this. The Forums may be down the rest of the month. It also looks as if the Athus.org site is down.

At least for me the athas.org is back online now, after being down for a few days. With all the Dark Sun excitement it's a shame the WoTC boards will be down, but that is a small portion of their overall traffic.

As for the forum downtime generally...a bit curious but we'll see.

Edit: multi-ninja'd! (That'll teach a mostly lurker to post!)
 

IMO, taking something down for this length of time implies it is not an upgrade.

It is throwing out the old for something entirely different. Call me a pessimist, but I have a sinking feeling that this will be built on a whole new architecture, with new "features", and the forums will enter a time of regular unreliability while those new features gets tweaked and prodded. ;)
 

the fact is that we really have no idea what exactly they're up to, and with that in mind, I think it's disingenuous of anyone to claim that WotC isn't doing it right.
For the record, I agree as to our ignorance. It could be anything from water damage at the colocation site, to Pathfinder terrorist attacks.

I just hope they have a back-up of my CharOp threads, because I don't.

Fingers crossed, -- N
 

For the record, I agree as to our ignorance. It could be anything from water damage at the colocation site, to Pathfinder terrorist attacks.

I just hope they have a back-up of my CharOp threads, because I don't.

Fingers crossed, -- N
May God have mercy on them, should the content of that board gets lost.
 

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