WotC forums down for a week or two?

Gleemax and the DDI tabletop have left a bad taste in a lot of mouths, but I think it's more productive to look at what WotC have done in the past year instead of what they didn't do the year before.

Everything WotC has done in the past 12 months has soft-sold, under-promised, and over-delivered. I don't know why what they're doing is taking a week, but I do know that they warned us about it beforehand, so it's according to plan. Based on that, and what they've delivered over the past year, I'm looking forward to the rollout!
 

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Gleemax and the DDI tabletop have left a bad taste in a lot of mouths, but I think it's more productive to look at what WotC have done in the past year instead of what they didn't do the year before.

Everything WotC has done in the past 12 months has soft-sold, under-promised, and over-delivered. I don't know why what they're doing is taking a week, but I do know that they warned us about it beforehand, so it's according to plan. Based on that, and what they've delivered over the past year, I'm looking forward to the rollout!
That's a good point. Maybe they have addressed some (dare I hope all?) of the flaws in their IT infrastructure. The 1-2 week delay is a throwback to the bad old days for sure, but I'll bite my tongue for the time being, despite their overall past, and because of their recent past.
 

My final guess:
+ Cleaning away the dead bits of TSR-esque basic software
+ Cleaning away the dead bits of different HASBRO-initiated "lets all have the same system, company-wide" initiatives that failed
+ Cleaning away the debris that was generated when Gleemax exploded
+ Cleaning away stuff that went wrong when DDI had to be implemented too quick
+ Cleaning away stuff left behind by the contractors Wotc fired in the end
= Two weeks downtime
 

My guess is the extended downtime is due to either:

1. Serious DB problems that require the whole system to be unzippered and put back together. Example: you have an email system with multiple servers, and the different serves are no longer in sync.
2. Emergency rollout! The old crappy system did not live long enough for the new system to finish final testing, but putting it back together is probably about as troublesome as just rolling out the new system.
 

I could see where the existing system could be in a bind in such a way that automating things for transition is difficult.

I don't have details, so I can't really say.

I will say that I've been in upgrades that included no downtime and really wished that it did.

I was in a meeting being badgered about how the upgrade had to be completely 100% seamless, as if we were planning to make it an ugly scar. I wanted to ask if that meant the new features had to be pulled.

Still, if it were me, I'd worry my little hat off about that downtime and be a stubborn little cur about there being none.
 

From Facebook D&D "Sorry we couldn't provide more notice. We completely understand. And you're right, there are other ways to do a migration that are less disruptive. Due to technical considerations, this is how we had to do it. However, we think you'll like the end result, so stay tuned."
 

This is D&D; WotC would have to diffuse criticism even if they delivered to us all free books and cake.

What type of cake cause I hate carrot cake, and what if I'm not home when the books are delivered and its raining........ . :cool:


Really though, as was said Migrations and Upgrades are typically measured in hours in the IT world.

But we do have to keep in mind the general spagetti nature of what the WOTC boards had become. Spagetti code is a programming nightmare.
As well as most of those boards were originally formed prior to the 'standard' bulletin board software available nowadays.

Since we were warned about it ahead of time I could care less, I don't spend very much time there anyways maybe once a month at most. Perhaps the changes might make me want to go there more often.

So I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, if they are migrating platforms as well as making upgrades all around, along with saving all those archives I can see how there will be a great downtime. Think about how many posts on average there are every day on there, perhaps this method allows them to fully migrate the entire database of posts.

I've done a few migrations like that before on Company Forums that were provided free to anyone that wanted not just customers. Behind the scenes this took us weeks to prepare, we are all volunteer moderators/admin (only one paid member on staff). It was a move of platforms and software, took me a better part of a week of evenings to go through all users (10k+) to update their permissions properly (We added private areas for various interests). Blogs/Galleries/New Forums/Private Forums were all added at the same time. So I can see where time consumption can go into prior to the 'flip the switch moment'.
They might be changing the web addresses as well for the direct forum links, so there could be quite a few things they actually need to wait for certain things to update after a couple of days.
 

((((Warning: Point and click guy here..I know nothing of programing...software, hardware...nothing))))

I have been involved in two diffrent 'upgrades' of system from the company side.
from a driving school and a bank. The driving school I was very close tot he upgrade, and the owner asked me to sit in on the meeting with there tech guys. WHen discussing seamless and down time I ask only 1 quastion...if we took the site down for a long weekend (friday-monday) how much money would we lose...when the answer cam back neglagable my suggestion was, and would be agian "Then why pay more to rush it"
the bank I was no where near the techs doing it, but from my (Customer service) POV we had 2 sets of website both working internaly for almost a month. we could switch from the 'live' old site to the 'internal' new site rathr easy (Even having both open on our desktop)...when the change came it was with 5 mins of down time.

then again from the other end my car almost got repossed when toyota financial switch systems, and none of my payments made it to there new system. I called to find out the problem and all of my ref numbers where wrong...then they found my whole lease was messed up. 2 years I had been paying, and 23 months of payments were stuck in upgrade..
 

Wild guess: WotC have been secretly beta-testing Gleemax ever since they officially abandoned it, and are now releasing it in fully-featured form.

<Evil laugh, twirls cape, exit stage left>
 


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