Wotc: "Planetouched are proficient with all martial weapons"

[wayne62682]

You know I was looking for that the other day, but couldn't find it. I found the write-up in the appendix, but is there a full write-up of the lesser planetouched elsewhere in the book?

Pinotage

I don't think so.. just that small blurb in the Appendix

 

[Christian]

Interesting. I guess the rule under the Monsters and Class Levels heading on pg. 290 of the MM really does only apply to Humanoids, as implied by the "Humanoids and Class Levels" subhead. At least, according to WOTC CS. (Personally, I'd apply it to any monster race with listed 1 HD. But I guess that's a house rule.)

 

[Christian]

Hey, wait. The Planetouched entries both say that they 'gain feats by their class levels'.

This is very confusing ...

 

[Pinotage]

I don't think so.. just that small blurb in the Appendix

Is there another source, then? They're supposed to be LA+0, but no details are included as to what abilities they lose to make the LA+0 rather than +1.

Pinotage

 

[Knight Otu]

Interesting. I guess the rule under the Monsters and Class Levels heading on pg. 290 of the MM really does only apply to Humanoids, as implied by the "Humanoids and Class Levels" subhead. At least, according to WOTC CS. (Personally, I'd apply it to any monster race with listed 1 HD. But I guess that's a house rule.)

Hey, wait. The Planetouched entries both say that they 'gain feats by their class levels'.

This is very confusing ...

Well, those bits really have nothing to do with weapon proficiency either way, as those are Outsider traits. Losing the 1 HD means losing the outsider features, namely Base Attack, Base saves, Hit Die Type, and skill points.

Is there another source, then? They're supposed to be LA+0, but no details are included as to what abilities they lose to make the LA+0 rather than +1.

Pinotage

Nope, they only lose the outsider type, and become humanoid (planetouched). But they are also affected by effects that affect outsiders.

 

[Pinotage]

Nope, they only lose the outsider type, and become humanoid (planetouched). But they are also affected by effects that affect outsiders.

And for that they lose +1 LA. I wouldn't think the outsider type would be that valuable.

Pinotage

 

[Knight Otu]

And for that they lose +1 LA. I wouldn't think the outsider type would be that valuable.

Pinotage

Neither would I. I guess the added vulnerability to anti-outsider stuff helps a bit, but on the whole... of course, if the outsider type is supposed to give them full martial proficiencies, that helps as well with reducing the LA.

 

[Knight Otu]

I never bought into WotC's BS that anything which gives you a bonus to what might be a casting stat or Strength is automatically worth a level.

As far as I know, no one from Wizards has ever said that. What has been said is that the design decision to not give out bonuses to casting stats for races with no LA comes from the "elf mistake" - giving elves the flavor of great mages with no mechanical backup.

 

[ThirdWizard]

And for that they lose +1 LA. I wouldn't think the outsider type would be that valuable.

Polymorph, man. Polymorph.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Interesting. I guess the rule under the Monsters and Class Levels heading on pg. 290 of the MM really does only apply to Humanoids, as implied by the "Humanoids and Class Levels" subhead. At least, according to WOTC CS. (Personally, I'd apply it to any monster race with listed 1 HD. But I guess that's a house rule.)

Notice that the Pixie in the Monster Manual replaces his 1 Fey hit die if he takes a class level...

-Hyp.