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D&D 5E WotC Ranger: Drakewarden released at D&D Celebration

darjr

I crit!
What do you folks think?

Your connection to the natural world takes the form of a draconic spirit, which can manifest in physical form as a drake. As your powers grow, your drake grows as well, blossoming from a small four-legged companion to a majestic winged creature large and strong enough for you to ride. Along the way, you gain an increasing share of the awe-inspiring power of dragons. Consider the source of the draconic spirit you have bonded with. The Drakewarden Origin table offers examples

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overgeeked

B/X Known World
"While you are riding your drake, it can’t use the flying speed of this feature."

So...you don't get to do literally the one thing you'd want to do with a pet dragon. Wow. That's...uh...something.

ETA: 15th level you can ride your flying drake. Fairies and aarakocra can fly from 1st level, but you have to wait until 15th for a dragon to carry you while flying. Yikes.
 
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AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
"While you are riding your drake, it can’t use the flying speed of this feature."

So...you don't get to do literally the one thing you'd want to do with a pet dragon. Wow. That's...uh...something.
To be fair, they do get to do that later on, at level 15. However, I can sympathize. It would be nice to be able to play a Dragon Rider that can actually ride their flying dragon before Tier 3 play.
 

Xeviat

Community Supporter
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The drake does start out small. Hard to ride a small dragon. Also Hard to envision a low level PC with a Large dragon and having that Large dragon only being as strong as a wolf or a horse.
 

overgeeked

B/X Known World
The drake does start out small. Hard to ride a small dragon. Also Hard to envision a low level PC with a Large dragon and having that Large dragon only being as strong as a wolf or a horse.
Small characters can ride medium-sized mounts. No reason a medium-sized dragon with wings couldn't carry a small character. The way the ability is written prevents that.
 




overgeeked

B/X Known World
But the pet presented is smol
It grows to medium-sized at 7th level...which is also when it gains flying speed.

Small characters can ride medium-sized mounts.

"Carrying Capacity. Your carrying capacity is your Strength score multiplied by 15 . This is the weight (in pounds) that you can carry..."

The drake has STR 16, which is 240 pounds carrying capacity. Halflings and gnomes weigh between 37 and 43 pounds. So it's clearly strong enough to carry a small character.

There's no reason a small character couldn't ride this medium-sized creature with flight...except that this ability is badly written. They can literally ride any other medium-sized flying creature that can support their weight from 1st level...but not their personal drake mount...until 15th.
 


There's no reason a small character couldn't ride this medium-sized creature with flight...except that this ability is badly written. They can literally ride any other medium-sized flying creature that can support their weight from 1st level...but not their personal drake mount...until 15th.
They needed a solve for this that is similar to Beast of Burden and Long Limbed.
 


doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I genuinely don’t get why the design is so timid with the size and with flight.

Just let me ride a dragon as my actual character concept, or don’t even put a “you get to ride a dragon” subclass in the game. Most campaigns won’t even see the levels where you can ride it in the air! Just give the drake (and pony, fwiw) Powerful Build, and get on.
 

AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
Yeah. Something. It's so weird. They just put out a second PC race that can fly from 1st level...and they need to make sure the drake can't carry you and fly until 15th...even for small characters. So weird.
Yeah. I don't see any reason why flying and mounted is any more powerful than flying from your own wings.

WotC is weird with stuff like this. I want my Dragon Rider to be able to ride my dragon, and fly, as soon as physically possible! You picked this (sub)class for a reason! There's absolutely no reason to force players to go three-fourths of the campaign not being allowed to do the very thing they're known for!
 




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