WotC WotC Removes Digital Content Team Credits From D&D Beyond

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According to Faith Elisabeth Lilley, who was on the digital content team at Wizards of the Coast, the contributor credits for the team have been removed from DDB.

The team was responsible for content feedback and the implementation of book content on the online platform. While it had been indicated to them that they would not be included in the credits of the physical books for space reasons, WotC apparently agreed to include them in the online credits.

It appears that those credits have now been removed.

I just discovered that I have been removed from book credits on D&D Beyond for books I worked on while at Wizards of the Coast.

Background:

While at Wizards (so after D&D Beyond was purchased) - with numerous books, my digital content team and I worked directly with the book team on the content, reading through rules drafts, suggesting changes, giving ideas, and catching issues. We had a full database of the content and understood exactly how it interacted.

Given that we were contributing to the content in the books, I felt it reasonable to request that team be added to the credits, but was informed the credits section was already too crowded with the number of people involved and many of the marketing team had already been dropped from credits. I felt strongly that anyone actually contributing to what is in the printed book should be credited though, so we agreed a compromise, that the team would be added to the credits page on D&D Beyond only, as there is no issue with "not enough space" on a web page.

I've added screenshots here that I had for some of the books.

At some point recently, those credits pages have been edited to remove the credits for me and the content team. Nobody reached out to let me know - it just happened at some point, and I only just noticed.

We've even been removed from the digital-only releases, that only released on D&D Beyond, such as the Spelljammer Academy drops.

I'm not angry or upset, just yet again, really disappointed, as somehow I expected better.

EDIT TO ADD MORE CONTEXT

It's not just getting the books online. I worked with Kyle & Dan to improve the overall book process from ideation to delivery across all mediums (you should have seen the huge process charts I built out...)

The lead designers would send over the rules for each new rulebook and we'd go through it, give feedback, highlight potential balance issues, look at new rules/design that was difficult to implement digitally and suggest tweaks to improve it etc etc. We even had ideas for new content that was then included in the book.

We'd go through the whole book in detail, catching inconsistencies and miscalculations, and I'm proud to say that we dramatically reduced the need for clarifications or errata on those books.

I'm not saying anyone on the design or book team was careless - far from it, they're consummate professionals - I am just illustrating the role my team and I had in contributing to the content, quality & success of the physical books, let alone the digital versions.

We should have been in the credits section of the physical printed book. We were part of the creative process. That was something we were actively discussing when I was informed I was being laid off.

Adding the team to the credits pages just on D&D Beyond was, as I mentioned above, a compromise while we figured things out.

My team were fully credited on the Cortex: Prime and Tales of Xadia books when D&D Beyond was still part of Fandom, before the Wizards acquisition.

In fact for those books we made sure to credit the entire digital development team, including developers, community managers and so forth - everyone who helped make the book successful.

I know that Wizards has hundreds of people involved and previously hit issues with the number of people in credits for D&D books, so pulled back from crediting some roles.

Would it be so bad to have to dedicate extra space in a book to the people whose contributions made the book successful?

I really don't think it would.
 

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Okay so I responded to a post that had 9 links of credits where that section was still there per the post. I tried to look at them and I can’t see them because I don’t own the book on beyond. I was inquiring about them. Nothing to do with what you are talking about.
then I have no idea what you were referring to here
Were there different people listed in the beyond section? Or same names we are seeing in the removed screenshots?
the screenshots contain the removed credits, that is why they are not links
 

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Thanks! This makes much more sense to me now. I can see how in any industry where the expectation is most any work on something is credited that not having the credit would send the message that you didn’t work on that product. This is different than other industries where there is no expectation of credit.


A couple of questions here.
1. My understanding is that you and your teams credits weren’t in the physical books, but just on digital beyond material. Can you elaborate on that any?

2. To your knowledge was everyone else that worked on all the d&d books credited appropriately?
I explained a lot of this on my initial Facebook post, which Morrus quoted.

1. My team and I were involved in working on the content that went into the physical books. We weren't part of the D&D studio, but we worked with the studio team. Our contributions improved the content in the physical books.

2. As far as I am aware, our situation was somewhat unique.
 

then I have no idea what you were referring to here

the screenshots contain the removed credits, that is why they are not links
Okay. Baby steps. Apparently there are 9 books on beyond that still have the d&d beyond team’s credits.
 

Okay. Baby steps. Apparently there are 9 books on beyond that still have the d&d beyond team’s credits.
yes, and 13 which previously contained credits but no longer do. All the screenshots in that same post are showing the credits as they were before being removed.

As that post said "For the other thirteen releases, here are screenshots of the deleted credits, for reference:"
 

Specifically, I apparently have Descent into the Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth in my account and this is what is currently still listed for D&D Beyond credits. I was initially wondering if this was a case of them just removing credits for former employees (assuming Jeff still works there for example), but I saw his name on some of the products @Echohawk mentioned that have the credits removed.
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Yeah, see, this is why asking for clarification is so difficult. No. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I asked if there is any independent evidence that the claims are true. That is most definitely NOT accusing anyone of anything. It's asking a pretty basic question - is there anyone who can verify these claims?
Except this kind of "I don't believe this claim by default" attitude is not applied evenly.
 
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I explained a lot of this on my initial Facebook post, which Morrus quoted.

1. My team and I were involved in working on the content that went into the physical books. We weren't part of the D&D studio, but we worked with the studio team. Our contributions improved the content in the physical books.

2. As far as I am aware, our situation was somewhat unique.
Thanks again.
On 1, I understand that part. What I’m trying to ask is if it’s industry standard practice to only get credit on the digital material instead of the physical book when you contribute to the physical book? Or any insights there.

Sorry if this comes across as an inquisition. I don’t mean for it to be if it is. I’m just trying to understand the nuances so I can form a better opinion. Your answers are definitely helping me do that. I’m sure they are others as well.
 

yes, and 13 which previously contained credits but no longer do. All the screenshots in that same post are showing the credits as they were before being removed.

As that post said "For the other thirteen releases, here are screenshots of the deleted credits, for reference:"
Right. But my question wasn’t about those. It was about the 9 products where those credits are still present.
 

Thanks again.
On 1, I understand that part. What I’m trying to ask is if it’s industry standard practice to only get credit on the digital material instead of the physical book when you contribute to the physical book? Or any insights there.

Sorry if this comes across as an inquisition. I don’t mean for it to be if it is. I’m just trying to understand the nuances so I can form a better opinion. Your answers are definitely helping me do that. I’m sure they are others as well.
The practice of only getting a credit on the digital version isn't something that's done anywhere else - it was only ever intended to be an interim, while we agreed how to add the team to the credits for the physical books going forward.

Industry standard is - if you contributed to the content / design in a book in some respect, your name should be in the credits.
 

As someone directly affected, maybe you can answer the post directly above this one. Removing credits when they are already present is weird. I don't like it. I can see it being the act of a clueless individual though. What I would like to understand is how this harms those whose credits were removed.
It has been explained. You replied to that explanation with, basically, "And?"

It seems as though you either don't want to accept or don't understand that the issue described is, in fact, an issue in this industry. I'll take the word of those (multiple) people who do who have chimed in in this thread that it is.
 

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