WOTC Resolutions for 2003

I hope wizards does not say "you must use the new WOTC minis to play DnD" I been gaming for 20 years, have lots of old minis, i'm NOT going to buy a whole new line just to play DnD I will use my old minis.
 

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KenM said:
I hope wizards does not say "you must use the new WOTC minis to play DnD" I been gaming for 20 years, have lots of old minis, i'm NOT going to buy a whole new line just to play DnD I will use my old minis.

Well, how could they. Once you have the core books, you can use monkey dookies* for minis if you like (or even play without minis.)

Or are you just associating it with the GW policay to use only their minis, and the current ones, at that? :)








*Monkey Dookies (tm) come to you courtesy of MEG_Hal. MEG_Hal, three times more Hal-like than the old THG_Hal... ;)
 

Hopping Vampire said:
Wizards biggest "mistake" i've seen thus far is eTools. Thats got to be the worst 30$ ive ever spent on gaming material. Thats just another in their long line of sub par D&d products.

Aaahh, eTools! That's something else I was trying to remember when I was scrawling this so early this morning. I recently got a look at this so called program and man does it suck. I glad I didn't pay for it. :D I went back to the free version from the phb.

That should be another WOTC resolution- Never work with Fluid again.
 

scarymonkey said:
3. Find a new cash cow.

While I don't follow the CCG market that closely, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to notice that Yu-Gi-Oh must be beating the crap out of Pokemon and MTG sales right now. Pokemon is dead. Magic sales must be flat.

Yu-Gi-Oh? I've never even heard of that one. Is it another anime inspired game for under-10's?
 

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Sulimo said:
Yu-Gi-Oh? I've never even heard of that one. Is it another anime inspired game for under-10's?

More or less, and with a MacDonalds tie in giveaway deal. Seems to be the king of the CCG hill right now. :rolleyes:
 

I don't know what you guys are talking about.. I know plenty of people in their late teens/20's who think Pokemon is awesome. I do too and I'm 22. In no other show can you see the amazing sculptures of that Japanese monster Rodan! (In other words it is the only show besides Buffy with any creative humor, and a good deal of it is definitely not aimed at little kids, who have neither read Dante nor seen The Gates of Hell). I'd say about half the episodes are pretty clever; as with any show there is still a fair amount of chafe.

edit: Yu-gi-oh is a supremely uninteresting show. It takes M:tG and turns it into holographic duel-monster battles (in which intuition is the only skill, there are no rules). To make a CCG out of this just seems ridiculous: you are reinterpreting a CCG out of a show already interpreted out of a CCG. It's sort of like modern fantasy writers (whose subject matter is Arthurian) who turn Merlin into some vaguely Gandalf-like figure when Gandalf is already a bloated version of Merlin. This only discredits Merlin (and M:tG).
 
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Sulimo said:
Yu-Gi-Oh? I've never even heard of that one. Is it another anime inspired game for under-10's?
Oh, it's very big right now. It has seduced one of our regular players. He still plays DnD with us every time we meet, but his nephews got him hooked on Yu-Gi-Oh! My son buys the cards, but doesn't have anyone to play with, since I refuse to join in the evil that is a CCG hobby. :D
 

Mark said:


Well, how could they. Once you have the core books, you can use monkey dookies* for minis if you like (or even play without minis.)

Or are you just associating it with the GW policay to use only their minis, and the current ones, at that? :)



*Monkey Dookies (tm) come to you courtesy of MEG_Hal. MEG_Hal, three times more Hal-like than the old THG_Hal... ;)

Dang that was funny, almost dookied myself :D

WotC will do fine, D&D is not dead but e-tools is, and the retail thing seems to be a fad...anyone remember the Warner Brothers Stores????
 

Wayside said:
I don't know what you guys are talking about.. I know plenty of people in their late teens/20's who think Pokemon is awesome. I do too and I'm 22. In no other show can you see the amazing sculptures of that Japanese monster Rodan! (In other words it is the only show besides Buffy with any creative humor, and a good deal of it is definitely not aimed at little kids, who have neither read Dante nor seen The Gates of Hell). I'd say about half the episodes are pretty clever; as with any show there is still a fair amount of chafe.

edit: Yu-gi-oh is a supremely uninteresting show. It takes M:tG and turns it into holographic duel-monster battles (in which intuition is the only skill, there are no rules). To make a CCG out of this just seems ridiculous: you are reinterpreting a CCG out of a show already interpreted out of a CCG. It's sort of like modern fantasy writers (whose subject matter is Arthurian) who turn Merlin into some vaguely Gandalf-like figure when Gandalf is already a bloated version of Merlin. This only discredits Merlin (and M:tG).

major financial sources have done stories on Pokemon not making money like it used to, I don't know how the CCG is doing but Pokemon toy sales are completely in the toilet and is considered one of the reasons Hasbro is loosing money right now. Don't blame me blame CNN, I think the Pokemon story has also been in the Wall Street Journal.

Yu-Gi-Oh is oriented for a slightly more grown up audience (12 instead of 6) the fact that it is a show about a card game is one of the big draws to it, your kids can play the same card game that is played on the show, the show is about playing the card game, kids are buying the cards like crazy. Man my logic even confused me for a second. I find it pretty goofy but then I'm not the target audience, my children are, they tell me that Pokemon is annoying and stupid, they don't like it anymore (just lke the Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys and Disney movies. what once was so cool we have to sit through it 50 times a day is now "so last week"). A child's attention span is only so long and the characters on the show never grew or changed, but the kids got older. Well enough on that, the card game is owned by Konami. EDIT: I just saw where the cartoon Yu-Gi-Oh is now on 11 times a week.

I've never used minatures or have seen a WOTC store and I'm sure people are scouring Japan for the new cash crop of kids toys and CCGs from crazy cartoons as we speak. E-tools actually wasn't a financial bomb but was a huge PR bomb, we will probably never know the full story on what happened there so I won't even speculate into the Fluid/WOTC situation. I forsee D&D being licensed out alot more in the future, it takes fewer people, puts all the work on somebody else and still makes decent money for the company.
 
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Mark said:


Well, how could they?. Once you have the core books, you can use monkey dookies* for minis if you like (or even play without minis.) ...

BFG's edit : I added the question mark, and obviously snipped



Well they COULD release new minutures on a slightly larger scale ( Dual purpose miniatures made to be played with separately also - rules similar to MageKnight/WhizKids Hero Clicks? ... hmmmm... marketing goblins like!) that would obviously not be compatable with the current ( but soon to be revised? ) 1" = 5' scale.

They probably won't do this ( Think of all the people and companies this would screw over ! ). But they could.

PS: Hal - please send me a starter set and 3 Monkey Dookie (TM) booster packs to my summer estate in Sienna.
 

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