well, then include that in your feedback. Not providing any won’t change anything, just like not voting
I think you are way more optimistic about how feedback works. Even in playtests, not everything is up for debate. Given how they justify their changes through that (and how quickly some people here have been willing to adopt that justification) tells me that they are unlikely to change that and that this clause is
part of the why they are doing it. I'll put in feedback, but I have no confidence that one of the absolutely necessary things that needs to change will.
because someone on the internet doesn't like them...
No, because they are assured by nothing but the word of a liar.
you mean that they accept what they are willing to accept... but you think that we are accepting anything, when we are happyish with it...
Again, no, I mean that they found people who will accept anything given that it stops the conflict, even if it doesn't actually materially change naything.
except I am not signing a contract... I can still switch to TORG, or Vampire or Savage World later... I am not 'locking myself in
I am saying "this is acceptable, but I reserve the right to find any future changes unacceptable.
Yeah, but that doesn't matter because you've given up your biggest bargaining chip by allowing them to deauthorize 1.0a.
what is there that assures them I will agree to any future changes?
Who cares if you agree, there is no more OGL 1.0a fallback. You've already conceded that in manufacturing consent for this rug pull.
no I have NOT... the defense is "I will take my business' elsewhere
I mean, I highly doubt that given how quick you've been to turn around on this whole thing.
wow...except like I said above, no contract, I can walk away anytime.
It's "Here is this deal"
"Okay sounds good"
if they change the deal I can say "Hey, that's not what I agreed to, and I am no longer interested"
This "deal" that you are "going along with" doesn't matter for you as much as it matters for 3PP. You're basically giving Wizards cover to destroy the OGL 1.0a and then set terms afterwards. Who cares if you say you'll away afterwards, they've already gotten what they want.
by finding a compromise they can live with and saying they will make some suggestion but this is good enough... sounds like how MOST deals are made.
Except that you don't have a deal, you have nothing. You seem to have problems grasping that everything here is completely under the whim of Wizards and if they don't want it, it's gone. Lando got better assurances in his deal with Vader than this.
I;m not taking there word, I am saying "this is okay, but if you change it I may not find it okay"
You
are taking their word and I don't see how you can say any different. You've given them the absolute ability to blow it up at any given time; this is completely at their word. That you'll walk away means nothing given how quickly you were to come back in the first place.
no hope and dreams... just good old fashion self interest...
They don't "win" by changing... they win by finding the compromise and sticking to it.
No, the win by manufacturing enough consent by making people think they are compromising when they can unilaterally cancel the whole thing and set new terms after they get what they want. I didn't think that it'd be particularly easy, but conversations like this are really proving me wrong.