Would you Swap 3.5e for Exalted?

[Hunter In Darkness]

Well i would not trade the book if it was gonna be destroyed but thats me. some folks my find taking advantage of the anti-4e sentiment underhanded but its there and and only speaking for myself and 15 or so others I know share the same feeling its not gonna go away.So from a company prospective it makes a lot of since to try and take advantage and bring in costumer's from another company.

 

[Stormtower]

Nope, nope, nope... D&D 3.5 is a lovely, mature system that, lightly houseruled, will serve as my primary venue for homebrew fantasy campaigns for at least the next decade.

Exalted holds no interest, as the WW Storyteller system has always inspired a "meh" from me.

 

[dmccoy1693]

This doesn't make sense. Sure, they talk about 4e. But realistically, they will target people who intend to switch to 4e, anyway, because those are the ones who will part with their 3.5 PHBs easily. There's not much harm done in this case.

IMO, it sounds like they are targetting those that are unhappy with the fact that their game is no longer going to be supported and that do not like what they hear about 4E. There is no denying that 3.5 is going to be less suppported now that WotC is walking away from it. I see it as a bold and brilliant move on their part to actively court those players.

Am I going to take part in it? No. I already own an Exalted 2E core book.

 

[JoeGKushner]

I disagree. I find it spiteful and a grandstanding attempt to jump on anti D&D (4e) sentiment.

Why ask consumers to destroy an item they paid money for and possibly still enjoy?

How about just giving away 2500 copies and letting consumers judge the game on it's own merits? If they are confident in their game then they win if consumers switch.

The cost of the promotion is the same to them regardless of the mechanism they use to give away the books.

So what you're saying is that WoTC will be doing an exchange for 2500 people for D&D 4th edition and giving the 3.5 edition books to those who have been unable to afford them or to prision systems or to soldiers or something along those lines?

 

[Nifft]

I loved Exalted 1e, would like the 2nd edition rule book, and get most of my 3.5e rules from the SRD via the web. So maybe. But I think I'd rather donate my 3.5e book to someone who would use it.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Scott_Rouse]

So what you're saying is that WoTC will be doing an exchange for 2500 people for D&D 4th edition and giving the 3.5 edition books to those who have been unable to afford them or to prision systems or to soldiers or something along those lines?

If I felt we needed to employ such a measure I would certainly consider the idea of a sampling program to give books to players but I would not ask they sacrifice something they own to receive the sample.

I think the idea of sampling is very good and the graduation idea with certificate is clever. They are positioning the product as different and better, that's good branding, even pointing out points of differentiation to D&D or any other system is fine in my book. The product looks good, has it's fans, has won awards, it should stand on those merits alone.

I resent the notion that players need to sacrifice a personal possession to take advantage . The fact that they are shredding a product I work on is irrelevant to me. It could be a stuffed toy that gets it's head ripped off and I would still find that distasteful.

For what it is worth, officially we (WOTC and Hasbro) donate literally tons of products to various organizations including needy children and military personnel. Unofficially many employees donate their company store product points to local schools, charities, cons, clubs, and military personnel.

As an example here is a story about Ziggurat Con held in Iraq. WotC employees donated $15,000 in product> Many other game companies donated as well including Kenzer & Co, Steve Jackson, etc.

 

[Ranger REG]

I disagree. I find it spiteful and a grandstanding attempt to jump on anti D&D (4e) sentiment.

Why ask consumers to destroy an item they paid money for and possibly still enjoy?

Because you cannot please them all?

How about just giving away 2500 copies and letting consumers judge the game on it's own merits? If they are confident in their game then they win if consumers switch.

But would WotC be willing to do that? Give away 2500 copies of the D&D 3-volume deluxe set?

 

[Scott_Rouse]

Because you cannot please them all?

It is easy to say as the big guy we are just getting our undies in a bunch and we should shut up and stop whining but look at it this way:

The promotion essentially says "burn your 3.5 PHB and we'll give you our Exalted book". In fact the mechanic for retailers is here

Note: You will need a credit card to place this order. Retailers will be charged a nominal $2 per book to offset shipping costs.

In the first week of May, all Exalted orders will be shipped to retailers via USPS Media Mail service, well in advance of the actual consumer promotional Graduation Week.

Retailers must take all D&D 3.5 Player’s Handbooks that are exchanged, tear out the pages, and return the full cover with the consumer forms using the return label provided in the book kit. Note: Returned book covers must be post-marked by June 30th.

We will check the returns against the participating retailer list, making sure the number of returned book covers matches the quantity of Exalted books requested. For copy of Exalted you receive that does not have a corresponding D&D 3.5 cover, you will be charged an additional $20.

My main problem as a marketer is that it asks consumer for a sacrifice to get a benefit.

But would WotC be willing to do that? Give away 2500 copies of the D&D 3-volume deluxe set?

Sure given the right circumstances.

 

[Hunter In Darkness]

since it seems they are destroying books im gonna have to say I would not do this .

 

[Darkwolf71]

But would WotC be willing to do that? Give away 2500 copies of the D&D 3-volume deluxe set?

Moot point. White Wolf is giving the books away. They are getting nothing in return except for destroyed 3.5 PHBs. I mean, they aren't even getting them in a condition that would allow second hand resale. This 'promotion' could take place with or with out the PHB swap. They just want a sacrifice.

It's really rather petty.