Would you Swap 3.5e for Exalted?

[pawsplay]

Hyperbole much?

The Mona Lisa is a singular work of art. The PHB is printed en mass. Certainly you can draw a distinction between the two.

It would be hyperbole if I claimed the acts were morally equivalent. Whereas I was simply making an implicit argument via reductio ad absurdum that simply because you own something does not mean you can automatically destroy it with a clear conscience.

 

[pawsplay]

If White Wolf wanted to help me, they'd offer to trade for some of THEIR old crap. But, it's a marketing ploy to slap at D&D, so there's that. I don't see a "try Exalted 2, trade in Exalted 1" or "try Exalted 2, it's much better than Demon!".

Yeah. I would totally have traded in my entire Trinity collection for Exalted. Or a chocolate bar.

 

[Cam Banks]

Show me a publisher who has ever upgraded a RPG game system and not touted it has superior to the previous and I'll show you a publisher who is out of business.

See, now I don't think we have any beef with this, so long as you're admitting you do the same thing yourself and don't get visibly peeved that others (ie WW) are doing the same. And since you say it doesn't bother you folks at all, we're good to go.

I'll concede this point. They are not holding a gun to anyone's head on this. The people that take advantage of the promo have likely made the determination that the PHB no longer holds value to them and thus is better traded in for something else that may. have more value.

Bingo. And that's why it isn't WW demanding a "personal sacrifice" for a "sample." It's "trade in your old game for a game that we think is better."

If it were me I would do it differently and just give away the book but ultimately it is their brand and company and they can do what ever they like. I am just one guy with an opinion.

Well, you're one guy with an opinion who is also the public face for WotC around here, so. It's not always that easy for folks to separate us as people from us as company employees/reps, which I'm sure you're completely aware of.

Cheers,
Cam

 

[The_Gneech]

Would you swap your 3.5e core rulebooks for an EXALTED 2nd Edition core rulebook?

Not on your life.

But I would trade every 3.x book I own and promise not only to never say a bad word about 4E but become the most voracious cheerleader you ever saw ... if Dragon and Dungeon came back.

I mean really came back. On the newsstands where they belong. Preferably put out by Paizo.

-The Gneech

 

[Turjan]

The beauty of marketing is that even if only 10% takes advantage of the offer, I reckon the campaign itself will already be deemed a sucess on a basic level. Now WW has positioned Exalted as a viable alternative to D&D4, and gotten a lot of people who wouldn't have checked it out before to do so.

Aint marketing a swell thing!

I guess so. Also, it's probably the longest Exalted thread on this forum ever . The game wasn't really much talked about recently anymore.

 

[thedungeondelver]

I guess so. Also, it's probably the longest Exalted thread on this forum ever . The game wasn't really much talked about recently anymore.

I wouldn't call this a thread about EXALTED per se.

 

[Turjan]

I wouldn't call this a thread about EXALTED per se.

As far as marketing goes, this thread is "EXALTED" enough.

 

[wingsandsword]

3.5 is a very good system. I enjoyed playing it, but now that I have played 4e, I won't likely go back. We have never said 3.5 sucks, as we have not said any other edition of D&D sucks but we certainly have said it is better. I think the distinction between "better" and "sucks" is huge.

I had certainly interpreted a portion of the 4e marketing as saying that 3.5 was a bad game system on it's own. Statements like saying that D&D games that used the Profession skill were probably not fun have lead to that conclusion: that the 4e marketing is based on saying that 3.5 is not fun or a bad game.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Bingo. And that's why it isn't WW demanding a "personal sacrifice" for a "sample." It's "trade in your old game for a game that we think is better."

I think that's really the sticking point, since they mentioned destroying them rather than doing anything useful with them. It's not really much of a "trade", from the company side.

I wonder if they really think Exalted 2 will be more of a stepping stone from 3.5 though, that seems an odd thing to go to.

 

[Vocenoctum]

I wonder if White Wolf would be able to send me a copy of Aberrant in exchange for my crappy old Exalted 1st edition. I never got to play that game and always wanted to.

For what it's worth, I'm sure this promotion will be forgotten in a month or two anyway. I find it more goofy and pretentious than offensive, so I'm not really losing any sleep over it.

Maybe not a month or two, given that the deal doesn't HAPPEN for two months. You don't get your exalted book until May.

Also, it's telling I suppose that they didn't market this to ENWorld, but to RPGnet and such.