Would you Swap 3.5e for Exalted?

[SSquirrel]

I found the Exalted 2nd Ed core rulebook dirt cheap at $10 used in a comic book store here in Louisville. That added to the fact that I'm a packrat who doesn't get rid of books, I wouldn't do it. Plus, I never bought the 3.5 book, kept using my 3E book heh

 

[Cam Banks]

I think that's really the sticking point, since they mentioned destroying them rather than doing anything useful with them. It's not really much of a "trade", from the company side.

Well, I suppose you could take your new copy of Exalted 2nd and rip the covers off, too. What does the guy who makes this trade care what WW plans to do with it? If you trade in your old car for a new one, are you horrified when it's taken off to the crusher?

Cheers,
Cam

 

[MichaelK]

Not only would I not do this, but I'm tempted to sell my collection of the entire Exalted 2e product line and use the profits to buy some unloved D&D 3.5 books out of sheer bloody-mindedness.

Turn about is fair play after all.

This has me annoyed.

 

[SSquirrel]

The thing is, you'd think I'd be a prime candidate for this. I don't want 4e, I've been a loyal 3.5e customer who has played it regularly since it came out, I haven't played Exalted but I've heard of it, and I already play and know other White Wolf games well (being a big fan of Mage especially, I just wish there was something like the NWoD rules for Mage on top of the OWoD setting/fluff). . .

Hey I hadn't noticed you were in Lexington. Just an hour away. Nifty. I definitely prefer the OWoD setting and don't see much beneficial change in the transition to NWoD, but that may just be me. Probably should be in another thread tho heh. 2nd Ed Mage is where it's at for Mage. Much like Highlander 2, there was no Mage Revised

Yeah. I would totally have traded in my entire Trinity collection for Exalted. Or a chocolate bar.

PM me your address. I'll mail ya a whole bag of candy bars for your old Trinity stuff. So long as it isn't the d20 version. Those were atrocious.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Well, I suppose you could take your new copy of Exalted 2nd and rip the covers off, too. What does the guy who makes this trade care what WW plans to do with it? If you trade in your old car for a new one, are you horrified when it's taken off to the crusher?

Cheers,
Cam

Again, from the consumer end, you're trading one book for another, on the business end, they're just giving away a book and requiring the destruction of another. It's two separate things. I think you're looking at it only from the one side.

The Customer gives up a book he no longer wants, then (at some later point, assuming availability doesn't come up short) he gets a different book in trade. Fine, dandy, traded.

From a business standpoint, they're still giving away a book. They're not recouping the loss from the PHB, it's not a trade for WW. They could just as easily have had an essay contest, or some kind of gameday thing, but they went this route.

 

[Imaro]

Again, from the consumer end, you're trading one book for another, on the business end, they're just giving away a book and requiring the destruction of another. It's two separate things. I think you're looking at it only from the one side.

The Customer gives up a book he no longer wants, then (at some later point, assuming availability doesn't come up short) he gets a different book in trade. Fine, dandy, traded.

From a business standpoint, they're still giving away a book. They're not recouping the loss from the PHB, it's not a trade for WW. They could just as easily have had an essay contest, or some kind of gameday thing, but they went this route.

I guess I'm with Cam here...what does it matter? Should they promote another companies game and increase WotC's customer base by giving these books away...doesn't seem smart. Should they waste space and money storing them...again not too smart a business move. They're not giving away a book for free, they are creating perceived value since something is lost to gain it...making it much more likely people will actually read and utilize the Exalted book as opposed to tossing it up on a shelf and forgetting about it. Thus a higher chance that they will actually gain customers as a result of this.

I find the uproar about what they do with property(WW fairly bartered for) kind of absurd. It's their property and they can do what they want with it as long as I get my $40 exalted book for a $30 PHB I don't care.

SIDE NOTE: Who is suppose to pay for the shipping on all these books that shouldn't be destroyed? FLGS, WW because either way they're now loosing money as opposed to coming out even.

 

[Vocenoctum]

I find the uproar about what they do with property(WW fairly bartered for) kind of absurd. It's their property and they can do what they want with it as long as I get my $40 exalted book for a $30 PHB I don't care.

Right, it's all about the perception and such. The PHB doesn't matter at all in the equation, so it's not a trade for WW. It's just a marketing ploy. Otherwise, I think we're talking past each other, and there's really no point.

SIDE NOTE: Who is suppose to pay for the shipping on all these books that shouldn't be destroyed? FLGS, WW because either way they're now loosing money as opposed to coming out even.

If you send it in to White Wolf, you pay shipping for the PHB, then pay WW $5 for shipping. If you do it through the gamestore, they send the covers in and pay $2 for shipping.

They could just let the gamestores keep them/ dispose of them as they want. I guess they're afraid of too many folks gaming the system, but since the number of give-aways is the same, it's not a big deal.

When I was originally linked the deal, I thought it was 5,000 copies and you sent the PHB in, then picked up the Exalted at the gamestore, but not sure if it changed or if I'm misremembering.

 

[moritheil]

The beauty of marketing is that even if only 10% takes advantage of the offer, I reckon the campaign itself will already be deemed a sucess on a basic level. Now WW has positioned Exalted as a viable alternative to D&D4, and gotten a lot of people who wouldn't have checked it out before to do so.

Aint marketing a swell thing!



/M

Yeah, I'm sure the PR people will pat themselves on the back. My point is that this is fundamentally a choice that many people have already made, and they have chosen against Exalted (even if they didn't know they were doing so.)

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Err ... no.

As it turns out, I'm no longer an RPG gamer. I'm a D&D player.

Though now that I consider it, I do have some FFE d20 books I'd be willing to give them.

 

[Shemeska]

Well, I don't actually own a 3.5 PHB. I still run 3e. I'm rather tempted however to buy a dirt cheap copy of the 3.5PHB as the fraction of the gamer community that digs 4e starts to dump them into the used book market. I won't use it, but I'll happily turn around and turn it in for an Exalted book. I don't have any exposure to the game, but who knows, they might tempt me since I'm not pre-jaded about it (unlike the rather hefty barrier that 4e has to overcome).