Wulf's Collected Story Hour -- FINAL UPDATE 12/25

One thought comes to mind as a possible problem. If you are going to get all technical and not allow a save because the creature conducts electricity then how would you know that a bolt that hits the cat in the ass will even make it to Wulf? It could just as likely enter the cat and then ground itself through the cats back legs long before it gets to our heroic dwarf pinned in the front.

Now if the cat has all four legs on Wulf due to a sucessful rake attack then I cna agree that Wulf is going to get to eat the bolt no matter what.


Dinkeldog said:
Whee! Another rules argument while we're waiting for Wulf to get back to work.

He was grappling with a creature that is immune to electricity pretty much because his resistance is ~0 (as opposed to say a blue dragon who is immune, but probably because his resistance approaches infinity). The steel predator holding him would actually enjoy having the electricity dance through him and right into the one he was holding. No cover bonus there. Grappling a blue dragon, I'd probably go the cover bonus (unless pinned), but not in this case.

Places where will saves should probably be disallowed: sleeping (except for dream-affecting spells), comatose, insane (or Wis = 0). So if you can find a sleeping enemy, I'd probably give up a domination, charm, or most other will saves automatically, especially if things aren't becoming violent.

Places where fort saves should probably be disallowed: that's a bit harder. I'd look at things on a case-by-case basis, I guess.

 

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Places where I would disallow a saving throw:

Reflex: Never
Fort: Never
Will: Never

(Evasion is another story.)

Just wanted to say thanks to those of you who came up to say hi to me at GenCon... sorry if I was not my usual ebullient self, I had a lot on my mind including having to miss the last two days of GenCon...

Just pretend I was "in character." :)

I will take my notes with me while I am travelling on business this week but I make no promises.


Wulf
 

I guess me and Dinkeldog's gonna have to "agree to disagree" until WotC comes up with some official word regarding if Steel Predators should be considered "live wires" or "surge protectors" (I see a valid argument either way). I guess SP's and Iron Golems should have had an "ohms" statistic somewhere...
 

Yes, but you're free-wheeling at giving walking fireballs...er, rogues...sneak attacks.

Wulf Ratbane said:
Places where I would disallow a saving throw:

Reflex: Never
Fort: Never
Will: Never

(Evasion is another story.)

Just wanted to say thanks to those of you who came up to say hi to me at GenCon... sorry if I was not my usual ebullient self, I had a lot on my mind including having to miss the last two days of GenCon...

Just pretend I was "in character." :)

I will take my notes with me while I am travelling on business this week but I make no promises.


Wulf
 

Wulf Ratbane said:
Places where I would disallow a saving throw:

Reflex: Never
Fort: Never
Will: Never

I'm rather curious - how would you see someone paralysed by a Hold spell making a Reflex ST? Would you give them a -5 for having a temporary Dex of 0, and assume that it reflects how lucky they are?
 

Squire James said:
I guess me and Dinkeldog's gonna have to "agree to disagree" until WotC comes up with some official word regarding if Steel Predators should be considered "live wires" or "surge protectors" (I see a valid argument either way). I guess SP's and Iron Golems should have had an "ohms" statistic somewhere...

Which ones are made of metal?
 

DocMoriartty said:
One thought comes to mind as a possible problem. If you are going to get all technical and not allow a save because the creature conducts electricity then how would you know that a bolt that hits the cat in the ass will even make it to Wulf? It could just as likely enter the cat and then ground itself through the cats back legs long before it gets to our heroic dwarf pinned in the front.

Now if the cat has all four legs on Wulf due to a sucessful rake attack then I cna agree that Wulf is going to get to eat the bolt no matter what.



By that reasoning, Doc, any lightning bolt would be grounded immediately upon striking the first target.
 

Hey, guys, I think you're forgetting the 'magic' factor in this spell. It's not a true lightning bolt, it's a magic one!

Magic electricity hasn't to work like mundane one, has it?
 

Hey! I want to read this story hour but going to where the story hours are hostedI found no PDF or .doc verson of this infamous epic!!!!

Does an easily printable version exist somewhere so I can have something to do on my commute?
 


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