JacktheRabbit
Explorer
One thought comes to mind as a possible problem. If you are going to get all technical and not allow a save because the creature conducts electricity then how would you know that a bolt that hits the cat in the ass will even make it to Wulf? It could just as likely enter the cat and then ground itself through the cats back legs long before it gets to our heroic dwarf pinned in the front.
Now if the cat has all four legs on Wulf due to a sucessful rake attack then I cna agree that Wulf is going to get to eat the bolt no matter what.
Now if the cat has all four legs on Wulf due to a sucessful rake attack then I cna agree that Wulf is going to get to eat the bolt no matter what.
Dinkeldog said:Whee! Another rules argument while we're waiting for Wulf to get back to work.
He was grappling with a creature that is immune to electricity pretty much because his resistance is ~0 (as opposed to say a blue dragon who is immune, but probably because his resistance approaches infinity). The steel predator holding him would actually enjoy having the electricity dance through him and right into the one he was holding. No cover bonus there. Grappling a blue dragon, I'd probably go the cover bonus (unless pinned), but not in this case.
Places where will saves should probably be disallowed: sleeping (except for dream-affecting spells), comatose, insane (or Wis = 0). So if you can find a sleeping enemy, I'd probably give up a domination, charm, or most other will saves automatically, especially if things aren't becoming violent.
Places where fort saves should probably be disallowed: that's a bit harder. I'd look at things on a case-by-case basis, I guess.