X2 *spoilers*

[Sulimo]

I saw X2 a few days ago...

I have to say that overall I thought it was much better than the original film. Actually I think I might have a new fave Marvel adaption.

No horrible lines like the toad line in X-Men and the characters I had problems with in X-Men (Storm & Cyclops) really improved in this second film imo.

One of the few nits I have to pick is the apparent killing of lady Deathstrike, and the way she died.

One particular thing I was surpised about and liked alot was the whole Jean Grey thread. I really didn't expect the film-makers to use the Phoenix Saga at all...I thought it would've been too hard to deal with, without dealing with all the Shi'ar stuff. But the foreshadowing in X2 looks like they can do it. The whole episode of her death very much reminded me of what heppened in the comics...pretty good work from the writer given they chopped the links to space out.

I particularly liked that fine shot over the water, where I thought at any minute Jean would rise in her Phoenix form.

Bring on X3 I say...

 

[stevelabny]

i just got home from the midnight show

the phoenix thing was great. i only wish they wouldve had her rise up out of the water for the ending.
it also seemed like they blow a chance to have rogue and iceman freeze (some of) the lake before the end.

i had no problems with deathstrike's death at all.
she was obviously only used as a conveniant "cool" fight for wolvy and i dont see any need to bring her back

my main problems with x1 were
mystique. UGH. what a horrible version of a great character.
x2 has gone a long way to redeeming her almost to the level of the character in the comics

halle berry as storm.
x2? nope. shes still all wrong for the part.

the special effects were pretty weak.
in x2, the special effects are pretty solid. no scenes that made me wince, and even a couple of things that were downright cool.

anyone get a good look at deathstrykes computer when mystique was hacking?

it had remy lebeau's name (gambit) in the mutant file
and more but i couldnt see them all.
and franklin richards had his own folder on the desk top.

any guesses on who the kid blinking to change the channels was?

and was i the only one who wondered if they called the illusionist JASON to make us think of JASON WYNGARDE aka MASTERMIND

steve

 

[Viking Bastard]

There are already two threads on this.

Here's the original.

 

[NiTessine]

There are already two threads on this.

Here's the original.

Which has been derailed beyond all recognition, and has no spoiler tag. I figure spoilers should be stuck here.

That said, I LOVED the movie!

Nightcrawler's entrance in the White House was awesome. The special effects of Wagner's teleporting were incredible, and the music... Wheee!

Magneto's exit from the prison was, likewise, awesome. Reminded me of a character from Scryed...

I can also honestly say that Grey's sacrifice was a real surprise to me. It wasn't until after the movie as I mulled it over that I went... "Jean Grey... the Phoenix. Ah, now I see."

I felt the movie could've used a bit more exploring of Nightcrawler's character, and perhaps something more than just a nod at Colossus and Kitty.

Overall, I can find no great causes for complaint. There were no true problems with the film. Lady Deathstrike and Jean Grey dying established a bit of that mortal touch to the characters. These may be godlike, but they're still not gods. Likewise, the 'Young and the Restless' parts, as someone described them, fleshed out the characters, and were not overt enough to detract from the movie.

All in all, 4/5.

Bring on X3! And this time, we want Gambit and the Beast!

 

[Mathew_Freeman]

Just to note, firstly, that "Dr Hank McCoy" is shown talking on the TV at one point...

Plus I heard that they put an X-ray of Archangels wings on the wall of the room where Wolverine and Deathstrike have their big fight...

I loved the film. All of it. No complaints at all. And I think the thing I loved most is that they did almost no recounting of the first film. They let us get on with enjoying the new stuff...Nightcrawler (BAMF! BAMF! BAMF! ), Collussus (finally! I loved "I could help you..." to Wolverine...shame that he didn't) and all the little nods and winks to other characters (Jubilee is also mentioned by name very briefly).

This film is hugely influenced by the comics, with so many little touches, it's wonderful. I didn't spot Gambit or Frankie Richards, but I'll have a look when I see it again, cos I will see it again.

And the Phoenix foreshadowing, I'm proud to say, I spotted when Jean's eyes went kind of fiery when she was trying to destroy the missile. I thought - "Nah...they wouldn't...but maybe..." and then right at the end, the subtle pointer to the fans

Much better than the cheesy 'hand rises above the water' trick, and it will leave many people guessing if they don't know the universe.

I also figured the President was going to announce the start of the 'Sentinel' program or something at the end, but the moment when the Xmen appear in the press conference was downright spooky!

Loved it. Wonderful. Back to see it again early next week, I think.

 

[Someone]

Wasn´t bad at all, but I missed a big fight with everyone involved. I liked the best Magneto and mystique, that´s sure.

 

[Crothian]

It was really good, but were was the sulfur smell? It's a simple detail to add and I am disappointed then didn't have it. They did very well with his character except the sulfur smell.

 

[Chun-tzu]

I liked it.

I LOVED the Colossus cameo. Seeing him change into his organic steel form was fantastic.

My only nitpick: Mystique breaks in and seals herself in the control room. Stryker wants in. But the idiot doesn't have Lady Deathstrike carve through the door with her adamantium claws. (The audience doesn't know about her claws yet, but Stryker does.)

You could argue that she doesn't have the strength to drive her claws through something that thick, but I don't really buy that, since Wolverine does it ALL the time (and actually, Lady Deathstrike, as a cyborg, is supposed to be stronger than he is). And there's no WAY that door can be adamantium (that would be too expensive, and there's no real reason to use such a rare metal to guard a control room).

 

[Viking Bastard]

It's never really said that she's a cyborg in the movieverse.

 

[Bagpuss]

and judging from the the clues

a) the way she regenerated like wolverine.
b) Strikers comment "I use to think you were one of a kind Wolverine."
c) The x-rays of her hands on the wall in the same chamber that was used to create Wolverine.

she was in fact just like Wolverine, in the film version.

Was that Jubilee sat next to the Professor when he took the class at the end? Looked like her hair do.

Also was the screaming girl Siryn? (Banshee's daughter from the comics).

Oh yeah I caught the Remy referance on the computer as well. Didn't notice the Angel one I'll have to go again and take a notepad.

Magneto had all the best lines.

I was disappointed that Professor X fell completely for Jason, I thought he was ment to be a much stronger mentalist than that.

I (and my friends) were initial disappointed that Bobby didn't freeze the water comming out of the dam, until I thought about it. He's only learning the extent of his powers, a lot of the time he still needs to touch things to freeze them, the wall in the corridor, the tea cup (although he blast the lad in the Museam with ice so they aren't completely consistant on that point).

Why didn't Jean do everything from the plane? She gave it power so why didn't she just do that and take off? That's the main sticking point. I guess she didn't have time and she can't use her TK on the water through the glass of the cockpit, or lift the plane if she is actually in it, but still her giving it power didn't make much sense.

Still excellent movie, I'll have to run Mutants and Masterminds now.