X2 *spoilers*

[Kai Lord]

Highly entertaining film, but I'm a little ambivalent right now because they blew what should have been the most powerful moment of the film; Jean Grey's death.

First it was a mistake the way they had Cyclops react to her speaking through Professor X. He should have just listened to the Professor while watching her mouth the words outside, his hand pressed against the glass of the jet cockpit, almost trying to will her back into the plane.

But having him get all cuddly with Patrick Stewart caused giggles and even some bursts of laughter. Not the reaction the scene was going for.

Then when she died Cyclops was way too mellow. They should have cranked up the music while he screamed and everyone held him down, with Logan off on his one, utterly stunned.

At the very least we should have seen a little more than the pat "She's gone", and then nothing, no heartwrenching music, nothing.

That should have been X2's "death of Spock" or "death of Lois Lane" scene, without a dry eye in the house. But it just didn't have the punch it needed.

Everything else pretty much kicked ass.

Side note: Millions of people would have been killed by the little Professor X/Jason Stryker stunt. Everyone in the world clutches their head and screams for two minutes straight? Yeah everyone on every freeway in every country with cars going more than 50 mph DEAD.

Ditto for any commercial jets that would have been landing.

The last scene in the Oval Office was also a tad dorky, but damn, Nightcrawler, Collosus, Logan, Lady D, Mystique, just a ton of coolness.

EDIT: Oh and the Drakes coming home to find Logan standing in their kitchen holding a beer....classic!

 

[Sixchan]

I saw it two days ago, and loved it.
I caught virtually no references to anything from the comics, seeing as I've never read them. I do watch X-Men Evolution, though.

Don't have much to nitpick, except that Kitty didn't get a bigger part.

Oh, and the Pyro scene ROCKED. As did Magneto busting out of prison.

 

[Starman]

EDIT: Oh and the Drakes coming home to find Logan standing in their kitchen holding a beer....classic!

Don't forget:

"What are you a professor of?"

"Art."



Starman

 

[DonAdam]

I give it a 2/5.

There was nothing at all mediocre about the movie. Everything was great or utterly stupid.

It was plot hole central (note that I'm only using the movies as a frame of reference, I think it's unfair to do a straight comparison to the comic):

1) Nightcrawler was super badass in the first scene. I knew from that moment that he would be incompetent by comparison for the rest of the film. They could have done some kind of brainwashing explanation (make him a sleeper agent), but they just went with the drip. Lame.

2) Magneto giggling like a school girl at Rogue on the plane.

3) The whole break-in to the base. They had Magneto with them, and then they launch this complicated plan to attack a base mostly made out of metal.

4) Magneto giggling like a school girl at Rogue on the plane.

5) For that matter, why didn't Magneto and Mystique just steal the jet and go themselves? They didn't need any help, and bringing the others along is just asking to get thwarted.

6) Magneto giggling like a school girl at Rogue on the plane.

7) The worst scene of the movie was the Jean Grey death scene. When your climax is the worst scene, it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. If Jean can flip all those switches from outside the ship, there was no reason she couldn't have stopped the water from outside the ship.

8) Magneto giggling like a school girl at Rogue on the plane.

9) At the beginning of the movie, and on the plane, Nightcrawler had no problem teleporting where he couldn't see (too accurately for my taste, actually). At the end, he was scared he would run into something when he was about to teleport through a door. Last time I checked, most people don't build walls on the other sides of doors.

10) Magneto giggling like a school girl at Rogue on the plane.

11) Wolverine could smell who Mystique was in the last movie. Why not this one?

11) Magneto giggling like a school girl at Rogue on the plane.

12) In the plane chase scene Magneto sealed up the blackbird. When they were flying back to Washington, the hole came back. I thought that was an appropriate analogy for the whole movie.

13) Magneto giggling like a school girl at Rogue on the plane. WTF???

But just so that you don't think I'm all negative, here's what was good:
1) Pyro was consistently interesting, and the scene outside of Bobby's house when Rogue had to stop him was excellent.
2) The prison escape scene was marvelous.
3) Wolverine wasn't acting like a teenager like in the last movie.
4) Jean showed much more personality than before.
5) Mystique was done better this time around.
6) Lady Deathstrike, while still lame, wasn't as lame as in the comics.
7) The cameos were well done and not distracting.
8) Nightcrawler (my favorite X-Men character) was done well about 70% of the time.

I also disliked the idea of Professor X concentrating and killing people. While not a flaw, it was silly.

The movie came across like it was written by 14 different people who didn't talk to each other. Individual scenes were good, but it was so horribly inconsistent and full of plot holes that it didn't click as a whole film.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Something it seems a lot of people are missing about Jean's death scene. Why couldn't she just do what she did from the ship? She could have. Why didn't she? She felt the need to sacrifice herself. It seems strange, but it goes to the basic priniciple that shows up ever now and that about people about to die, and not actually TRYING to stop it...instead, they walk into it with full knowledge. THAT is why I loved that scene.
And as for the Art Professor thing. What's horrible...that's what I'm studying to BE.

 

[JamesL85]

An inconsistency??? Or am I delusional????

I was thinking that in the first movie, Wolverine asked something about finding them in the jet or something (I thought it was on their approach to liberty island, but I just watched that scene on DVD and it wasn't there). Can someone correct me if I'm wrong here?

My question is: If they couldn't be seen on radar in the first movie, how did the fighter jets find them and "lock on" so easily in the second?

If I imagined the first part, my question is irrelavent.....LOL

 

[Kanegrundar]

Jean was worried about hurting everyone else if she attempted to use he power from the ship. Remember the fire that blasted out from her body during her fight with Cyclops that ruptured the dam. That's why she had to leave the ship in order to save everyone.

Kane

 

[WizarDru]

Jean was worried about hurting everyone else if she attempted to use he power from the ship. Remember the fire that blasted out from her body during her fight with Cyclops that ruptured the dam. That's why she had to leave the ship in order to save everyone.

What, do I stutter?

 

[Hand of Evil]

I was very pleased with the movie, the characters were better written and the story was very solid.

Hugh is coming along with Logon, too bad he is too tall.

They also had a lot of close up of Mystique body too. Now, don't get me wrong here, Logon is the kind of guy that would have had his fun with Mystique and keep his mouth shut, he did it in the comic!

of 5

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

What, do I stutter?

Yes.