X2 *spoilers*

[Assenpfeffer]

I thought the movie rocked on toast. So much so that I'm not completely confident that Reloaded will be able to top it. I consider it a qunatum leap over the first film, which was itself pretty decent.

Yes, it has some contrivances. I find it difficult to beleive that people actually go into movies looking for that kind of stuff. I go to be entertained, and I was - immensely. Geekgasm!

The one thing I think should have played out differently was Wolverine's getting shot in the head - the bullet should have ricocheted off his skull. He might well have been knocked cold, though.

My favorite scene is probably Magneto's escape. That just rocked.

And his pulling the pins on all the grenades. After the explosion they all fall to the ground at his feet.

And Wolvie's going berserk in the mansion. Finally.

Lots of little touches, too - in the Oval Office scene late in the movie, Rogue and Iceman are wearing X-Men uniforms. Among many others - the mutant list, Project Wideawake, etc.

Plus the Phoenix subplot, which there's no way someone unfamiliar with the comics would catch.

I second the request to pull together all the cameos, by the way. I caught Gambit, Colossus (!), Kitty and what I think was Jubilee. And, of course, Mastermind.

 

[Umbran]

Plus the Phoenix subplot, which there's no way someone unfamiliar with the comics would catch.

Insofar as they won't kow what's going to happen, sure. However, in the credits of the film, there's a big section labelled "Phoenix Effects". Anyone who watches the credits can put two and two together...

 

[EricNoah]

Enjoyed it immensely! Good stuff.

 

[Datt]

IThe one thing I think should have played out differently was Wolverine's getting shot in the head - the bullet should have ricocheted off his skull. He might well have been knocked cold, though.

I was waiting for someone to mention that. It didn't sit right with me either. I mean his skull is lined with adamantium. There is no way a bullet from what looked like a 9mm or a .45 would penetrate that. And if it did just go into his skin and hit his skull, his regeneration wouldn't have spit it out. It would have just healed over it leaving a nice little bump with a bullet inside.

 

[Umbran]

And if it did just go into his skin and hit his skull, his regeneration wouldn't have spit it out. It would have just healed over it leaving a nice little bump with a bullet inside.

You forget the simple maxim that scientific plausibility takes a distant backseat to coolness in movies and comic books. Doubly so for movies based on comic books.

Honestly, the guy is breaking physical laws six ways from Sunday, and you're gonna quibble on exactly how his regeneration would or would not perform?

 

[Ristamar]

Originally posted by WizarDru
They eventually marry and have a baby. Madelyn, however, is a clone of Jean produced by a fellow named Mr. Sinister. No, really. He's apparently trying to manipulate blood-lines to do...um, something. It's never really made clear what his point is.

If I recall correctly, Nathaniel Essex, a.k.a. Mr. Sinister, was "created" by Apocalypse and is, in a loose sense of the term, under servitude to Apocalypse's designs of ruling over all mutants, as the weak (both human and mutant) fall to the strong after "armageddon". Sinister, like Apocalypse, is very educated in the field of genetics and evolution. Sinister discovered that if Scott and Jean were to ever have a child, the offspring would be a mutant of incredible power, even capable of defeating Apocalypse himself.

As for the movie.... while it was certainly flawed, I liked it. It's useless to compare the comics to the movies at this point, as they're obviously taking quite a few liberties across the board, but I enjoyed it, nonetheless. Definitely far more entertaining than the first one.

 

[Assenpfeffer]

If I recall correctly, Nathaniel Essex, a.k.a. Mr. Sinister, was "created" by Apocalypse and is, in a loose sense of the term, under servitude to Apocalypse's designs of ruling over all mutants, as the weak (both human and mutant) fall to the strong after "armageddon". Sinister, like Apocalypse, is very educated in the field of genetics and evolution. Sinister discovered that if Scott and Jean were to ever have a child, the offspring would be a mutant of incredible power, even capable of defeating Apocalypse himself.[/B]

Well, then, the only thing not explained about Cable seems to be why he's so lame.

Still... Rob Leifeld. What can you expect?

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Well, then, the only thing not explained about Cable seems to be why he's so lame.

Still... Rob Leifeld. What can you expect?

In all fairness, the whole "Nathan Summers" aspect of Cable didn't come into play until long after Liefeld had stopped writing X-Force/being a part of Marvel/split for Image.

But Cable was always pretty darned lame, from day one.

 

[Welverin]

Still... Rob Leifeld. What can you expect?

Crap

 

[Numion]

Insofar as they won't kow what's going to happen, sure. However, in the credits of the film, there's a big section labelled "Phoenix Effects". Anyone who watches the credits can put two and two together...

Weeell.. I don't think so. If you haven't read the comics, like I, it would be pretty hard to know. I didn't know about any phoenixis before I read this thread. And as some have pointed out there was something on the water in the last scene. I noticed it too, but I was just like "whats that supposed to be". I didn't see know sign. .


The phoenix effects could refer to anything.