X2 *spoilers*

[Skade]

Oh, I didn't forget it. TRIED TO, but didn't. And don't forget Cable's clone and twin brother. Unless you can, in which case you probably should.

Lest we forget, Rachel is Jean and Scott's daughter from an alternate future timeline. Presumably, so is Cable, his many genetic relateds, and everybody else.

Wasn't the name of Cables clone/brother Stryker? Making that character the mold for Brian Cox's character in the movie?

As to my opinion, I loved every minute of it. I was seeing the Phoenix arc from the beginning, and having been drawn into the X-Men by the original story arc I was so psyched. It began even in the museum, with the dreams, and the sudden amplitude of her powers in her sleeping mind. There was the electronics, the brief little flash in her eyes twice I think, and o course the ending sequence. As to Cyclopses reaction, it was fine. Having been portrayed as stoic and unmoving, breaking down as much as he did was showing the severity of its effect on him.

I loved it. Matrix Reloaded is gonna really have to work hard now.

 

[Lichtenhart]

Wasn't the name of Cables clone/brother Stryker? Making that character the mold for Brian Cox's character in the movie?

I think the name was Stryfe. And about Cable's birth and he being lame, there's something more to say. In this earth and many other alternatives, Sinister thank to genetics tried to create a human able to beat Apocalypse. This earth's attempt was Cable, but when Apocalypse discovered about it, he infected him with a a tecnovirus that ate away his living flesh replacing it with organic metal. Through all his life Cable had to devolve a huge part of his powers trying to keep the virus from killing him, or worse, should it ever reached his brain. Nate Grey, who was an alternate Earth Cable had no such problem, and was easily the most powerful mutant on Earth, maybe second only to Franklin Richards.

 

[Viking Bastard]

According to the script writer (wasshisname? Hayter?) the movie
originally had two plots: Of the religious zealot Stryker from
Claremont's "God Loves, Man Kills" and his plan to use Xavier and
Cerebro to destroy all mutantkind and of the Sentinel program
and some crazy general that was behind that (as well as the
whole weapon X program). Somehow, these two stories
interconnected as the two villains joined forces (with the general
becoming Stryker's main henchman most likely) and the joined
forces of the X-Men and the Brotherhood had to battle them to
save the universe (yadda yadda yadda).

But this story simply became 'too big', 'too long', 'too expensive'
and 'too complicated' and the whole sentinel plot got cut out and
the two villains got merged into one. Brian Cox's Stryker character.

This is something I remember from a interview from before the
movie went into full production so I don't know how much of that
script still lives in the finished movie.

 

[Viking Bastard]

I think the name was Stryfe. And about Cable's birth and he being lame, there's something more to say. In this earth and many other alternatives, Sinister thank to genetics tried to create a human able to beat Apocalypse. This earth's attempt was Cable, but when Apocalypse discovered about it, he infected him with a a tecnovirus that ate away his living flesh replacing it with organic metal. Through all his life Cable had to devolve a huge part of his powers trying to keep the virus from killing him, or worse, should it ever reached his brain. Nate Grey, who was an alternate Earth Cable had no such problem, and was easily the most powerful mutant on Earth, maybe second only to Franklin Richards.

In the current Cable series (Soldier X), Nathan has purged his body of the virus and has since been able to affect the very fabric of reality.

Still a bloody awful comic.

 

[Lichtenhart]

I think it depends on what you're looking for in a comic. I'm liking it so far.

 

[Skade]

I think the name was Stryfe.

Yep. That's right. There was a one shot Stryfe's Strike Files that was basically a rundown of the primary mutants in the X-Men and how to deal with them. Wizard did something similar in its X2 issue called Stryker's Files. That's where my brain went wonky.

 

[Silver Moon]

...the religious zealot Stryker from Claremont's "God Loves, Man Kills"

Thank you. It's been bugging me ever since I saw the movie last Friday as to who Stryker was. I remebered the name, and thought it was associated with X-Men, but could not place it. I just checked the Graphic Novel, and the spelling is even the same.

BTW, anyone not familiar with this X-Men Graphic Novel should stop by a comic store to pick up a copy, it's one of the best X-Men stories ever written and Brent Anderson's art is also quite good*.






*But nowhere near the level of his current work on Astro City, which is another comic that I would highly suggest.

 

[Viking Bastard]

There's a sequal coming out in the pages of X-Treme X-Men with
the ultra inventive title "God Loves, Man Kills II".

Again, written by Claremont.

 

[Viking Bastard]

I think it depends on what you're looking for in a comic. I'm liking it so far.

Of course, as always. It's not that I have anything against the
book existing as such y'know. I just don't like it.

Since The Authority, too many books are now jumping onto the
whole 'proactive-superhero' bandwagon and I must give Cable
/ Soldier X credit for actually being proactive in some ways (most
books throw it around to sound important but are only standard
superhero fare).

That said, I seriously dislike the writing.

 

[Someone]

I was thinking on one thing when the film ended;

-What happens to Nightcrawler when he teleports to an unseen location?

[Probable answer] -He´s likely to materialize into a wall and die

-How does he know?