XP for Creatures that can summon other creatures equal or greater than their own EL

[Davek]

XP for Creatures that can summon other creatures equal or greater than their own EL.

How do you calculate XP for these situations?

 

[Darklone]

You don't. Summoning creatures is included in the calculation of XPs for the creature who can summon.

 

[Davek]

Ouch!!

 

[Nail]

Ouch!!

Yes and no.

Yes => Ouch 'cause you've got more to fight.

No => Ouch 'cause they're mucho easy to banish or hedge out.

At low levels, summoned monsters hurt.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

According to the RAW, no.

If you run into an evil cleric, who summons a fiendish girallon, you don't get extra XP. If the cleric had cast a different 4th-level spell, you don't get extra XP for that.

If you run into a demon, no - the extra summon is included in the monster's CR.

Having said that, the RAW are sometimes broken. If you face a succubus, she has a ~35% of summoning a balor, which will kill opponents of her CR level. For extreme circumstances like that, yes, the DM should give a hefty XP reward. In fact, WotC should not have put the succubus into the MM like that. I hope the succubus gets fixed in the MM 3.5.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Well, the DM would not use the summon balor ability of that succubus, and AFAIK they can summon other critters as well (owing a favor to a balor can be worse then being killed by a mortal). I think it's more for high-level encounters.