GnomeWorks
Adventurer
Ah. Sorry, when you referred to it being "teh awesome" with quotes and all, I sort of assumed sarcasm...
Carry on.
Yet another "4.0 impressions" thread
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Ah. Sorry, when you referred to it being "teh awesome" with quotes and all, I sort of assumed sarcasm...
Carry on.
Arawn76
Explorer
I'm a happy healthy sex obsessed male and still I'm very happy that there is no gratuitous nudity or gore in the core books. Including that stuff would have excluded selling D&D to a younger audience (I hope!) and thats hardly a healthy business model.
As a side note there is far too much sex and gore in films, games and books these days. It has its place and I enjoy it but for the love of the gods can't I just turn on the TV and enjoy a nice bit of heroic fantasy (or a drama, soap etc) without worrying about the younger members of my family walking in.
As a side note there is far too much sex and gore in films, games and books these days. It has its place and I enjoy it but for the love of the gods can't I just turn on the TV and enjoy a nice bit of heroic fantasy (or a drama, soap etc) without worrying about the younger members of my family walking in.
I'm happy with little to no nudity in the books, but having the OGL state no sexual situations ever is a bit...much. I mean, succubi don't even take souls while going at it anymore, unless I've been misinformed. That's just...stupid.
Jack99
Adventurer
IF??!?? Are you sure you are a guy?
Has there ever been an official D&D product where you felt you couldn't do that?
Jack99
Adventurer
So you are saying that boys of 12+ aren't interested in a little bit of skin? Or do you mean that it would be disallowed by some censoring committee, or whoever decides such things in the States?
Can you explain to me which soaps and/or dramas has too much sex and gore in them? While we don't get all over here, I know of very few (if any) that are considered inappropriate because of the amount of gore or sex.
American soap operas seem to have at least one couple getting naked at least every couple of episodes. No they don't show anything really, but sexual situations on tv are quite easy to find. My 2 year old will see someone get shot/clubbed on the head/etc on tv* and be like "Oh no, he got hurt" and I explain things to her. Making sure to point out that what we're watching is make believe, but that if you DO shoot someone or something that it would be like that.
*Something that is relatively tame as far as rating can still have these situations crop up easily, it's not like we're taking her to see Saw or anything
*Something that is relatively tame as far as rating can still have these situations crop up easily, it's not like we're taking her to see Saw or anything
StreamOfTheSky
Adventurer
Women can be just as sick and perverted as guys, they just tend to be more discreet about it. And even that's a generalization, and will often not hold true.
Bump2daWiza
First Post
Honestly it is a little early for me to settle on whether I like the new system or not (I have played about 4E 3 times since it was released). But here are my first impressions.
First, it is very different from previous editions (3E was a bit of a break from 1E and 2E, but 4E seems radically different than any of them). Now this is not a bad thing. I think they made a bold move making so many changes. But that kind of change, could upset some of the people who feal it is "too different" from other editions.
Second, I am not sure I really like the powers. I can see how some people might prefer them, and I don't believe they are a bad innovation. They just are not my cup of tea. It seems like they took the principles of how spellcasters operated in the game, and applied them to all classes in a balanced way (which makes sense since spell casters were thought to be overpowered by some in 3E). But I just don't like playing a fighter who uses at-will, daily, Encounter and utility powers. Again, just not my cup of tea.
Third, simplicity. Personally I like the streamlining and the simplicity of the new edition. Even though I am not a big fan of the powers, they have created a very elegant, and easy to use system. It was very easy to play 4E once characters were made.
Fourth, Balance. This has got to be the most balanced version of the game ever (pending splat books). I really have no complaints here. The only potential problem I can see is that maybe the strikers will end up getting more of the glory than others. But I don't think you will have some of the balance issues that plagued 3E.
Fifth, Character creation. I was a little confused by the character creation section and by the sheet. It could have used a lot more examples, and the character sheet could have been more specific (the damage and attack work areas were a little hazy for my tastes).
Thats it. Will have to play our current campaign the whole way through to see how well the system really functions.
First, it is very different from previous editions (3E was a bit of a break from 1E and 2E, but 4E seems radically different than any of them). Now this is not a bad thing. I think they made a bold move making so many changes. But that kind of change, could upset some of the people who feal it is "too different" from other editions.
Second, I am not sure I really like the powers. I can see how some people might prefer them, and I don't believe they are a bad innovation. They just are not my cup of tea. It seems like they took the principles of how spellcasters operated in the game, and applied them to all classes in a balanced way (which makes sense since spell casters were thought to be overpowered by some in 3E). But I just don't like playing a fighter who uses at-will, daily, Encounter and utility powers. Again, just not my cup of tea.
Third, simplicity. Personally I like the streamlining and the simplicity of the new edition. Even though I am not a big fan of the powers, they have created a very elegant, and easy to use system. It was very easy to play 4E once characters were made.
Fourth, Balance. This has got to be the most balanced version of the game ever (pending splat books). I really have no complaints here. The only potential problem I can see is that maybe the strikers will end up getting more of the glory than others. But I don't think you will have some of the balance issues that plagued 3E.
Fifth, Character creation. I was a little confused by the character creation section and by the sheet. It could have used a lot more examples, and the character sheet could have been more specific (the damage and attack work areas were a little hazy for my tastes).
Thats it. Will have to play our current campaign the whole way through to see how well the system really functions.
They're called parents over here.
What struck me about this comment - I teach middle school and actually have a DnD club at my school - when I showed the students the new 4e books, two of the female students came up to me and were very excited that the girls were actually clothed. One talked about how it was troubling being in a fantasy game where the girls were more like sex objects than heroes.
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