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Crothian said:
Not really, it was late and the girls were acting suspicious from the point of view from people inside the house.
Nonsense. Look at the facts. They even offered to pay her hospital bills - she just was after more money. People shouldn't be allowed to waste the time of a court.
 

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From the first article (emphasis mine):
She thought perhaps they were burglars or some neighbors she had tangled with in the past, she said.
So it looks like there were... previous issues too. The bitch has been "tangling with" her neighbours for a while.

But I agree 110% with barsoomcore. The real fault is in the judge. Paying medical expenses? The only real doubt I would've had would've been between awarding nothing, or awarding nothing and throw legal expenses on her as well. I find this sort of abusing of the legal system to be revolting. Not only it is unfair, but the courts have a lot of better work to do.
 

Why do these lunatics always have to be in *Colorado*? Why not Wyoming? Wyoming never makes the news. They should get some of the bad press. Or Nebraska. There's nothing to do in Nebraska. Why can't they go be crazy there?

Barsoomcore, I will happily support your bid to be World Dictator if I can be you Minister of Slapping Sense into Dumb:):):)es!!!!!
 

What pisses me off is that this gets to court super fast while my dad's pending lawsuit against some people who cheated him out of a LOT of money is lagging behind, 2 years later, still not at court yet. Because of that crap, he had to close his business.
 

Crothian said:
Not really, it was late and the girls were acting suspicious from the point of view from people inside the house.
So what? It's not THEIR point of view that matters. It just flat-out isn't. What matters is whether or not the girls were doing something that went beyond the bounds of normal behaviour.

AND KNOCKING ON SOMEONE'S FRONT DOOR AIN'T BEYOND THOSE BOUNDS

If there was a sign on the woman's porch saying, "Don't knock on my door, don't come up on my porch, leave me alone and get lost," then fine, these girls behaved recklessly. But otherwise, no. No way.

People don't get to just say, "Well, from my point of view they were wrong so the law should decide in my favour." The law isn't there to make people feel justified in their opinions. It isn't there to accomodate all points of view. It's there to provide a set of unequivocal references on what is or isn't acceptable behaviour. And this judge has just sent down a decision that says knocking on people's front doors isn't acceptable behaviour.

It doesn't matter how frightened this particular woman is. It doesn't matter what her medical conditions may be. What matters is that knocking on a front door -- AT ANY TIME -- is doing exactly what you're supposed to do.

If you've got a condition that makes normal behaviour dangerous, it's your responsibility to warn others, to let them know that they need to be careful. If you don't do that, you don't get to complain when people ignore your condition.


Shakespeare had the right of it. The first thing we do is, we kill all the lawyers.
 


Darkness said:
Nonsense. Look at the facts. They even offered to pay her hospital bills - she just was after more money. People shouldn't be allowed to waste the time of a court.

the woman just wanted her day in court, that's perfectly accepttible in the US. Sure, her motives were money, but the judge obviosly also saw the the girls were a bit wreckless in their doings. really, both sides acted bad
 

barsoomcore said:
So what? It's not THEIR point of view that matters. It just flat-out isn't. What matters is whether or not the girls were doing something that went beyond the bounds of normal behaviour.

AND KNOCKING ON SOMEONE'S FRONT DOOR AIN'T BEYOND THOSE BOUNDS

It is at night. Someone comes knocking on my door in the late hours I'm not going to be assuming its some kids here to give me cookies. I know places that this behavoir would have gotten the girls shot, so ya they were out of line for doing it so late.
 

I'm with Crothian on this one.

I'm kind of surprised that people don't think the girls exercised questionable judgement. What if it was some kids putting bags of flaming poo on your doorstep or apples with razorblades in them? It's people sneaking around at night ringing your doorbell. That doesn't happen a lot in my neighborhood.

I'm going to treat any knock on my door after say 7:00 at night with suspicion. Would I sue once I found out it was some local kids giving me cookies? Absolutely not. But I certainly would question their decision to do so.
 

GlassJaw said:
I'm with Crothian on this one.

I'm kind of surprised that people don't think the girls exercised questionable judgement. What if it was some kids putting bags of flaming poo on your doorstep or apples with razorblades in them? It's people sneaking around at night ringing your doorbell. That doesn't happen a lot in my neighborhood.

I'm going to treat any knock on my door after say 7:00 at night with suspicion. Would I sue once I found out it was some local kids giving me cookies? Absolutely not. But I certainly would question their decision to do so.

I'm not sure anyone questions that 10:30 is a bit late to be knocking on someone's door.

But suing someone over it (in these circumstances) seems extreme. And the judge's decison to award 1000 bucks for that is ludicrous.
 

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