Your table is YOUR table.

[Morrus]

Was anyone going to quit D&D because Orcs were evil as they have been from day one?

Is the only motivation to write books to prevent people quitting?

 

[Mr. Lahey]

Sorta. Edward Stratemeyer created the Hardy Boys, and he's American. Charles Leslie MacFarlane is Canadian, and it's believed that he ghost wrote the first sixteen novels. But given that he isn't even confirmed to have written them, he (or his estate) doesn't hold the copyright.

I read quite a bit of those as a kid. I'm curious if they still hold up, or if they feel too YA trying to read them now. Hmm... I think I still have at least a couple volumes published in the 50s kicking around in a box somewhere....

I have a couple of the old editions - brown covers and 25 (rather than 20) chapters. Not only does some of that not hold up, at least one book was completely rewritten. I can’t say why, but the original had a ton of stuff that would cause outrage today.

 

[Bohandas]

Not only does some of that not hold up, at least one book was completely rewritten. I can’t say why, but the original had a ton of stuff that would cause outrage today.

I think the copyright on the original version would still expire at the same time though. The revision would only affect the copyright status of the revised version

 

[Maxperson]

Then their leader, who I named after our own @Charlaquin, invited them to join in the dance.

That's it! I demand representation in your game!

 

[MGibster]

That's it! I demand representation in your game!

In Cyberpunk 2020, posergangs [sic] are made up of individuals who emulate someone famous though plastic surgery, cybernetics, and of course clothing. Your typical posergang might revolve around a famous individual, a television show, movie franchise, or anything else the gang finds interesting. Some examples include the Gilligans, a gang of LGBTQ+ individuals who all look like characters from a certain 1960s sitcom, and the Kennydys, who all resemble members of America's favorite political dynasty.

Maxperson is the leader of the Headrooms. The Headrooms base their gang on an obscure anti-corporate television show that aired briefly in the late 1980s. Using a combination of biosculpting and cybernetic voice modulators, most of the gang members resemble the titular hero from the show, Max Headroom. The gang is dedicated to sticking it to the man and commit most of their crimes against corporations and sometimes even other gangs. Because of this, the Night City Police Department tends to leave them alone. Besides, they all look alike, so when one of them commits a crime it's hard to pin it on any one individual.

Lately there are been problems within the gang. While they usual take on a strong anti-corpo stance, Maxperson recently made a deal with Militech to sell their sparkly brown sugar water beverage in local bars and convenience stores. This has caused a schism within the gang that threatens to tear them apart.

 

[Maxperson]

In Cyberpunk 2020, posergangs [sic] are made up of individuals who emulate someone famous though plastic surgery, cybernetics, and of course clothing. Your typical posergang might revolve around a famous individual, a television show, movie franchise, or anything else the gang finds interesting. Some examples include the Gilligans, a gang of LGBTQ+ individuals who all look like characters from a certain 1960s sitcom, and the Kennydys, who all resemble members of America's favorite political dynasty.

Maxperson is the leader of the Headrooms. The Headrooms base their gang on an obscure anti-corporate television show that aired briefly in the late 1980s. Using a combination of biosculpting and cybernetic voice modulators, most of the gang members resemble the titular hero from the show, Max Headroom. The gang is dedicated to sticking it to the man and commit most of their crimes against corporations and sometimes even other gangs. Because of this, the Night City Police Department tends to leave them alone. Besides, they all look alike, so when one of them commits a crime it's hard to pin it on any one individual.

Lately there are been problems within the gang. While they usual take on a strong anti-corpo stance, Maxperson recently made a deal with Militech to sell their sparkly brown sugar water beverage in local bars and convenience stores. This has caused a schism within the gang that threatens to tear them apart.

Yes, t-t-t-t-tune into Network 23! The network that's a real mind-blower!

 

[Warpiglet-7]

it’s already being said. Withdrawn.

 

[Desdichado]

I have a couple of the old editions - brown covers and 25 (rather than 20) chapters. Not only does some of that not hold up, at least one book was completely rewritten. I can’t say why, but the original had a ton of stuff that would cause outrage today.

I'm not asking if the books are going to send zoomers to the fainting couches, I'm wondering if they are well enough structured that they don't feel hoaky and like kids books. I imagine that they probably do, but given that I was probably about ten or eleven the last time I read one, my recollection, if it was even good enough, wouldn't probably be sufficient to answer that. I'll have to dig them out and try to read them, probably.

 

[The-Magic-Sword]

This is a hugely important point. If people are playing on VTTs that may be based specifically around a particular rule system, then the ability to customize certain things around the “table” could be limited. This would be an argument that what’s published does carry weight over individual groups.

Or not - I admit I have never played using a VTT.

This is actually kinda true, its not generally a huge deal, but I have made decisions based on whats easy/hard to do in pathbuilder or foundry.

Like at one point I was thinking of using a partial variant if the "automatic bonus progression" rule that makes characters get math fixers on level up (as opposed to from items.)

But then I realized itd practically have to be for skill items and stuff too since you can't really seem to toggle the option only half on and went "nah"

Kinda worked better for my game though.

 

[aramis erak]

There are some things that, If I find out a player is doing at their home table, I don't want to associate with them. Dead Tree copies of FATAL in use for it's unique rules, for one.

So, to a certain point, I agree with the OP's premise... but certain behaviors are toxic enough that playing them out is definitely a yellow card, if not a red card.

But one is judged by the company one keeps, and what they do. So...