theburningman
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Well, I've only seen it once, so I'm going by memory. Anyone else that can back me up?
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Your Thoughts on the Matrix Revolutions?
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I've heard it claimed many times that the noises plays...but...it doesn't. I've watched that scene tons of times TRYING to listen, but there's no Matrix noise...theburningman said:
As for the reason, its actually much simpler than some people want it to be. She's a Vampire for emotions. Just like all the other rogue programs are some kind of creature(werewolves, ghosts, etc), she's the Vampire. She doesn't HAVE emotions, so you 'samples' them from other people.
Tarrasque Wrangler
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My review, reposted from my website:
Thougts and feelings on Matrix Revolutions, with various and sundry spoilers:
First half: Ho hum. Weren't the squiddies 20 hours away like, 10 hours ago? I'd have to go back to the Reloaded DVD, but weren't they 6 hours away at the end? Anyway, lotsa yakking, although thankfully a little more cogent than Reloaded's yakking. Great BDSM club scene though.
Second half: Oh my Christ. GIANT FREAKIN' ROBOT BATTLES! If the rest of this movie had been gay cowboys eating pudding, the GIANT FREAKIN' ROBOT BATTLES would have made it all worthwhile.
SuperSmith vs. Flying Neo in the rainstorm was very nicely done. Saw some shots that looked videogame fake, but less so than Reloaded's burly brawl. As cool as it was though, it was basically a big slugfest. Not even a very kung fu-ish one at that. I was really looking forward to seeing what two gods could do to each other in a reality as malleable as the Matrix. Compare it to the final battle in Dark City, with Murdoch and Mr. Book basically throwing buildings at each other, stopping each others missiles in mid-air, and redirecting them at each other. Still, as slugfests go, Revolutions was suitably epic.
The Ending: Having a hard time on this. It was good, but it wasn't what I wanted. It left me feeling a little cold. The best thing I can say about it is I can't think of a better way to end it, but that's the Wachowski brothers' jobs, not mine.
Don't let my negativity fool you, I genuinely liked this movie. I think it's a testament to what the Wachowskis created that everyone is so contentious about it; everyone feels that it's their own film. It's similar to the criticisms leveled at the Star Wars reissues and prequels: "Lucas is ----ing with MY MOVIES!" I'd say any comparison to a pop culture phenomenon like Star Wars (to which the Matrix Trilogy more than holds its own) has to be considered a positive.
Will this be looked at the way Star Wars is 30 years from now? Hard to say. After all, the Matrix generation still has Star Wars front and center in their experiences, but people in 1977 had bupkis. That's why SW is so huge in peoples' minds. Is it as good as Star Wars? Except for a much less satisfying ending than Jedi's, I'd say yes. And that's as high praise as you'll ever get out of me.
Plus, it had GIANT FREAKIN' ROBOT BATTLES!
Revolutions: **1/2 stars our of four. The whole 7-some-odd hour Matrix Trilogy: ****.
Thougts and feelings on Matrix Revolutions, with various and sundry spoilers:
First half: Ho hum. Weren't the squiddies 20 hours away like, 10 hours ago? I'd have to go back to the Reloaded DVD, but weren't they 6 hours away at the end? Anyway, lotsa yakking, although thankfully a little more cogent than Reloaded's yakking. Great BDSM club scene though.
Second half: Oh my Christ. GIANT FREAKIN' ROBOT BATTLES! If the rest of this movie had been gay cowboys eating pudding, the GIANT FREAKIN' ROBOT BATTLES would have made it all worthwhile.
SuperSmith vs. Flying Neo in the rainstorm was very nicely done. Saw some shots that looked videogame fake, but less so than Reloaded's burly brawl. As cool as it was though, it was basically a big slugfest. Not even a very kung fu-ish one at that. I was really looking forward to seeing what two gods could do to each other in a reality as malleable as the Matrix. Compare it to the final battle in Dark City, with Murdoch and Mr. Book basically throwing buildings at each other, stopping each others missiles in mid-air, and redirecting them at each other. Still, as slugfests go, Revolutions was suitably epic.
The Ending: Having a hard time on this. It was good, but it wasn't what I wanted. It left me feeling a little cold. The best thing I can say about it is I can't think of a better way to end it, but that's the Wachowski brothers' jobs, not mine.
Don't let my negativity fool you, I genuinely liked this movie. I think it's a testament to what the Wachowskis created that everyone is so contentious about it; everyone feels that it's their own film. It's similar to the criticisms leveled at the Star Wars reissues and prequels: "Lucas is ----ing with MY MOVIES!" I'd say any comparison to a pop culture phenomenon like Star Wars (to which the Matrix Trilogy more than holds its own) has to be considered a positive.
Will this be looked at the way Star Wars is 30 years from now? Hard to say. After all, the Matrix generation still has Star Wars front and center in their experiences, but people in 1977 had bupkis. That's why SW is so huge in peoples' minds. Is it as good as Star Wars? Except for a much less satisfying ending than Jedi's, I'd say yes. And that's as high praise as you'll ever get out of me.
Plus, it had GIANT FREAKIN' ROBOT BATTLES!
Revolutions: **1/2 stars our of four. The whole 7-some-odd hour Matrix Trilogy: ****.
Tarrasque Wrangler
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Pbartender
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Matrix Wars: The Programs Strike Back
My favorite scene of the movie is that last big climactic battle between Neo and Agent Smith...
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INTERIOR: THE MATRIX -- A SIMULATION OF A HUMAN-BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY
SMITH: You have learned much, Mr. Anderson.
NEO: You'll find I'm full of surprises.
[CGI special effects fight scene hoopla.]
SMITH: Your destiny lies with me, Mr. Anderson. Morpheus knew this to be true.
NEO: No!
[More CGI special effects fight scene hoopla. Neo gets shoved back into a matrix human-battery pod thingy.]
SMITH: All too easy. Perhaps you are not as strong as the Architect thought.
[More CGI special effects fight scene hoopla. Neo super-jumps out of the matrix human-battery pod thingy.]
SMITH: Impressive... most impressive
[Neo lands. Agent Smith and Neo both strike martial arts combat poses.]
SMITH: Morpheus has taught you well. You have controlled your fear... now release your anger.
[More CGI special effects fight scene hoopla. Neo is cautious.]
SMITH: Only your hatred can destroy me.
[More CGI special effects fight scene hoopla. Neo is getting his ass kicked.]
SMITH: You are beaten. It is useless to resist. Don't let yourself be
destroyed as Morpheus did.
[More CGI special effects fight scene hoopla. Agent Smith cuts off Neo's hand.]
SMITH: There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you. You do not yet
realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power.
Join me and I will complete your training. With our combined strength,
we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the matrix.
NEO: I'll never join you!
SMITH: If you only knew the power of the programming. Morpheus never told
you what happened to your father.
NEO: He told me enough! He told me you killed him.
SMITH: No. I am your father.
NEO: No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!
SMITH: Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
NEO: No! No! No!
SMITH: Mr. Anderson, you can destroy the Architect. He has foreseen this. It is
your destiny. Join me, and we can rule the matrix as father and son.
Come with me. It's the only way.
[Agent Smith beckons to Neo. Neo steps back off the gantry and falls into the bottomless pit of the matrix human-battery pod storage facility.]
~~~
My favorite scene of the movie is that last big climactic battle between Neo and Agent Smith...
~~~
INTERIOR: THE MATRIX -- A SIMULATION OF A HUMAN-BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY
SMITH: You have learned much, Mr. Anderson.
NEO: You'll find I'm full of surprises.
[CGI special effects fight scene hoopla.]
SMITH: Your destiny lies with me, Mr. Anderson. Morpheus knew this to be true.
NEO: No!
[More CGI special effects fight scene hoopla. Neo gets shoved back into a matrix human-battery pod thingy.]
SMITH: All too easy. Perhaps you are not as strong as the Architect thought.
[More CGI special effects fight scene hoopla. Neo super-jumps out of the matrix human-battery pod thingy.]
SMITH: Impressive... most impressive
[Neo lands. Agent Smith and Neo both strike martial arts combat poses.]
SMITH: Morpheus has taught you well. You have controlled your fear... now release your anger.
[More CGI special effects fight scene hoopla. Neo is cautious.]
SMITH: Only your hatred can destroy me.
[More CGI special effects fight scene hoopla. Neo is getting his ass kicked.]
SMITH: You are beaten. It is useless to resist. Don't let yourself be
destroyed as Morpheus did.
[More CGI special effects fight scene hoopla. Agent Smith cuts off Neo's hand.]
SMITH: There is no escape. Don't make me destroy you. You do not yet
realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power.
Join me and I will complete your training. With our combined strength,
we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the matrix.
NEO: I'll never join you!
SMITH: If you only knew the power of the programming. Morpheus never told
you what happened to your father.
NEO: He told me enough! He told me you killed him.
SMITH: No. I am your father.
NEO: No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!
SMITH: Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
NEO: No! No! No!
SMITH: Mr. Anderson, you can destroy the Architect. He has foreseen this. It is
your destiny. Join me, and we can rule the matrix as father and son.
Come with me. It's the only way.
[Agent Smith beckons to Neo. Neo steps back off the gantry and falls into the bottomless pit of the matrix human-battery pod storage facility.]
~~~
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I was disappointed in some of it. As for a special effects movie it was good, loved the gaint robot fights (is it time for Mechwarrior?) and the superman fights but the story did not give the punch, which I say was an actor issue, KR sucks and could not make me believe enlightment and understanding.
3/5
3/5
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Wulf Ratbane said:
Wulf, I'm with you here absolutely. I found that story-wise the third episode was the least interesting and least involving of the three.
The first movie was excellent in all quarters, one of the finest movies I've seen. If it had ended there it would have been perfect. Reloaded took it in an unexpected direction which could have overturned everything, but didn't really when it came down to it.
Lots of action (and the action scenes are good) but... I'll not be bothering to watch this again.
Ah well.
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kingpaul said:
That's excellent. I'm glad that you (and others) have been excited by the film; I wish I had been, but that is more a reflection on me than any assertion about the film as a whole.
Cheers
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