Your Trek?

Babylon 5.

Of all the sci fi series: Star Trek, Lost in Space, BattleStar Galactica, etc. I liked Babylon 5 best.

Of the specific Star Trek movies.... hmmm, they were mostly bleehhh. Wrath of Khan was the best. Combination of the Kobyashu Maru scenario and "Here Be Dragons."
 

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RedShirtNo5 said:
That's what what I would want. But the movie didn't deliver. Kirk dies from sliding down a cliff on broken metal stairway? I can't decide whether to giggle or yawn. He should have died alone on the bridge of a starship.
-RedShirt

I hated his death. It just seemed so anti climax. Kirk was so important to the mythos that if they were going to do a movie about his death it should have been the major plot not just an add on for the next generation.

It was as bad as the ending of Enterprise. Where Riker and Troi basically walked all over the Enterprise characters.
 

mojo1701 said:
Well, wouldn't you want your heroes to die heroically, and not to die of old age?
Well, if you're referring to Kirk in GENERATION, having the bridge collapsed under him and fell to his death isn't exactly the image of a heroic death. I mean, if you gotta go, you might as well go with a bang.

Kirk and Picard should have switched tasks.
 

One of the many things that bothered me about "Generations" was that here's this place that is supposed to be so wonderful that Soran (Malcolm McDowell's) char is willing to commit untold mayhem and murder including blowing up an inhabited solar system. Yet both Picard and Kirk seemingly within moments of arriving decide, "Well it's nice, but not real. Let's blow this popsicle stand." Granted they are both supposed to be Heroes and thus of superior moral fiber, but I would have expected more agonizing. You did get some of this with Picard (Ironic, considering how Holier than Thou the STNG people are supposed to be), but still.
 

Difference is, of course, that Kirk and Picard had pretty awesome lives, even if they
weren't gettin' all their hearts' desires.

Soran just had his family, friends and nearly his entire race wiped out by the Borg and
then went into this fantasy world. After that, how are you gonna build yourself a
new life? Hello, obsession.
 

Viking Bastard said:
Difference is, of course, that Kirk and Picard had pretty awesome lives, even if they
weren't gettin' all their hearts' desires.

Soran just had his family, friends and nearly his entire race wiped out by the Borg and
then went into this fantasy world. After that, how are you gonna build yourself a
new life? Hello, obsession.

Guynan's race were also such godawful "know it all"s that she "Knew" things weren't right in that alternate time-line episode where the Enterprise C? was supposed to have gotten destroyed helping the Klingons that helped bring about the Klingon-Federation alliance. Yet, this "Fantasy world" that was supposed to be so compelling, couldn't pull the wool over Picard's eyes (Aptly described by Q as an unimaginative dullard) and he was able to figure out that it was just a fantasy.
 

Elf Witch said:
I hated his death. It just seemed so anti climax. Kirk was so important to the mythos that if they were going to do a movie about his death it should have been the major plot not just an add on for the next generation.

It was as bad as the ending of Enterprise. Where Riker and Troi basically walked all over the Enterprise characters.
I hated Kirk's death as well. He's one of those characters that already got an awesome sendoff, with the rest of the OT crew, in ST VI. Also, you should never see Kirk die. He lived through all that he did to come back and die? He already saved the universe time and time again.

The TNG cast should have stood on its own for the first film after the series ended. Instead, we got a mess of a movie. Bleh.

Anywho - I recall watching the Trek cartoons when I was younger, I think they were on Nickelodeon. I liked just about all the films (1 & 5 the least) but VI has always been my favorite and really made me appreciate the franchise (I saw everything else to that point, but not all the TOS eps).
 


Rackhir said:
Guynan's race were also such godawful "know it all"s that she "Knew" things weren't right in that alternate time-line episode where the Enterprise C? was supposed to have gotten destroyed helping the Klingons that helped bring about the Klingon-Federation alliance. Yet, this "Fantasy world" that was supposed to be so compelling, couldn't pull the wool over Picard's eyes (Aptly described by Q as an unimaginative dullard) and he was able to figure out that it was just a fantasy.
Soran was able to see through the fantasy, but unlike Picard, he didn't care.
He knew returning to reality would give him nothing, there was nobody that needed him and nobody he cared about.

The real problem is that Picard doesn't send Kirk back in his time to beam Soran back or arrest him or at least put him under surveillance (or counseling), or that he doesn't return to a time where he could effective intervene before something bad happens (preferably even before the Romulan attack that station - proof for Sorans machinations would be there already...).
 

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