Rackhir said:Was that the Wrath of Madeline Kahn?
RedShirtNo5 said:That's what what I would want. But the movie didn't deliver. Kirk dies from sliding down a cliff on broken metal stairway? I can't decide whether to giggle or yawn. He should have died alone on the bridge of a starship.
-RedShirt
Well, if you're referring to Kirk in GENERATION, having the bridge collapsed under him and fell to his death isn't exactly the image of a heroic death. I mean, if you gotta go, you might as well go with a bang.mojo1701 said:Well, wouldn't you want your heroes to die heroically, and not to die of old age?
Viking Bastard said:Difference is, of course, that Kirk and Picard had pretty awesome lives, even if they
weren't gettin' all their hearts' desires.
Soran just had his family, friends and nearly his entire race wiped out by the Borg and
then went into this fantasy world. After that, how are you gonna build yourself a
new life? Hello, obsession.
I hated Kirk's death as well. He's one of those characters that already got an awesome sendoff, with the rest of the OT crew, in ST VI. Also, you should never see Kirk die. He lived through all that he did to come back and die? He already saved the universe time and time again.Elf Witch said:I hated his death. It just seemed so anti climax. Kirk was so important to the mythos that if they were going to do a movie about his death it should have been the major plot not just an add on for the next generation.
It was as bad as the ending of Enterprise. Where Riker and Troi basically walked all over the Enterprise characters.
Soran was able to see through the fantasy, but unlike Picard, he didn't care.Rackhir said:Guynan's race were also such godawful "know it all"s that she "Knew" things weren't right in that alternate time-line episode where the Enterprise C? was supposed to have gotten destroyed helping the Klingons that helped bring about the Klingon-Federation alliance. Yet, this "Fantasy world" that was supposed to be so compelling, couldn't pull the wool over Picard's eyes (Aptly described by Q as an unimaginative dullard) and he was able to figure out that it was just a fantasy.