Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
It's very interesting, knowing that the thread title is "you're a vilain", that the most popular choices are the benign/good ones: Miller Pyre, the Long now and the Moral Mind.
I rather like it
They act like vilains, but their goals are noble...that's something my players will have to ponder about.
I just have to make sure that as a DM i will have to hit them hard and personally during the campaign, so that it becomes more personal...
Does the end justify the means?
Will it end like in Watchmen?
They, or I, might even propose to join the Ob. (in which case something will go wrong, blood spilled again, terrible misunderstanding etc...)
My sentiments exactly.
I think the title of the thread is key here. First of all because I think that very few people think of themselves as villains (even the Nazis thought they were doing the right thing) and because a lot of us contributing to this debate have been ignoring that injunction!
Some members of the conspiracy are clearly villainous - Leone Quital, for example. He strikes me as the sort of person who would know that his 'tastes' are egocentric and cruel. But he's also not high up enough to take part in the discussion. Only those with less overtly selfish aims seem to qualify.
On the whole notion of just how deeply one's own motives can be hidden from oneself, it would be a nice touch if Roland Stanfield is horrified when he reincarnates as a rakshasa! (Perhaps blaming the PCs for forcing his hand!)