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D&D General D&D Red Box: Who Is The Warrior?

A WizKids miniature reveals the iconic character's face for the first time.

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The Dungeons & Dragons Red Box, famously illustrated by Larry Elmore in 1983, featured cover art of a warrior fighting a red dragon. The piece is an iconic part of D&D's history.

WizKids is creating a 50th Anniversary D&D miniatures set for the D&D Icons of the Realms line which includes models based on classic art from the game, such as the AD&D Player's Handbook's famous 'A Paladin In Hell' piece by David Sutherland in 1978, along with various monsters and other iconic images. The set will be available in July 2024.

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Amongst the collection is Elmore's dragon-fighting warrior. This character has only ever been seen from behind, and has never been named or identified. However, WizKids’ miniature gives us our first look at them from the front. The warrior is a woman; the view from behind is identical to the original art, while the view from the front--the first time the character's face has ever been seen--is, as WizKids told ComicBook.com, "purposefully and clearly" a woman. This will be one of 10 secret rare miniatures included in the D&D Icons of the Realms: 50th Anniversary booster boxes.


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The original artist, Larry Elmore, says otherwise. (Update—the linked post has since been edited).

It's a man!

Gary didn't know what he wanted, all he wanted was something simple that would jump out at you. He wanted a male warrior. If it was a woman, you would know it for I'm pretty famous for painting women.

There was never a question in all these years about the male warrior.

No one thought it was a female warrior. "Whoever thought it was a female warrior is quite crazy and do not know what they are talking about."

This is stupid. I painted it, I should know.
- Larry Elmore​

Whether or not Elmore's intent was for the character to be a man, it seems that officially she's a woman. Either way, it's an awesome miniature. And for those who love the art, you can buy a print from Larry Elmore's official website.
 

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MGibster

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It occurs to me that how an audience interprets a work of art might change radically over the years. I've heard some argue that Erik from Phantom of the Opera would haven been undestood by contemporary audiences to have congenital syphilis whereas most modern audiences don't even consider it because antibiotics have provided us with a viable cure. A dude with congenital syphilis trying to marry Christine would have added an extra little bit of horror to the tale.

I don't think many people would have looked at Elmore's picture back in 1983 and interpreted it to be a woman warrior fighting a dragon. The interpretation would have overwhelmingly been a male warrior fighting a dragon. But forty years later, and we're not the same. We're more exposed to muscle bound woman the likes of Gina Carano or Brienne of Tarth in fiction. A twenty year old might reasonable look at the Red Box and say, "I'm not sure if that's a man or a woman."
 
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EdAbbey

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Before you saw this article were you eagerly anticipating a male version of the character from the red box set in WizKid's 50th Anniversary Icons of the Realms booster sets?

Were you? Really?

And do you feel 'excluded'?

Do you? Really?
I used to be a daily visitor to ENWorld. In the last few years, I’ve found I visit less and less. Now, I pop back in maybe every 6 months. Why? Because I got too irritated by Morrus and his mods slamming anyone who might dare question the overt, progressive, woke agenda that most RPG publishers have adopted.

I see nothing has changed.

See you in 6 months.

Cheers
 

TiQuinn

Registered User
I used to be a daily visitor to ENWorld. In the last few years, I’ve found I visit less and less. Now, I pop back in maybe every 6 months. Why? Because I got too irritated by Morrus and his mods slamming anyone who might dare question the overt, progressive, woke agenda that most RPG publishers have adopted.

I see nothing has changed.

See you in 6 months.

Cheers
Dude, it’s been about 15 years since I last posted here before checking back in a week ago. Beat that.
 


Azzy

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We're talking about the company who's executive producer said, "In my viewpoint, honestly, guys like me [straight/white] can't leave soon enough for this hobby."
I'd love to see the source of that and what was said verbatim and in context.
I'm tempted to say, there is certainly "a push".

Crazy radical idea here: there's room in this hobby for everyone. I hope we can all agree on that much.
Oh, certainly there's room—reinterpreting a piece of art to make the subject female isn't excluding us guys.
 

jayoungr

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Supporter
I'd love to see the source of that and what was said verbatim and in context.
Ask and ye shall receive. (Video cued to the part in question.)

Disclaimer: I'm parking this here purely in the interests of providing a verbatim, in-context quote. Not weighing in on what he says at all, because I am not touching that subject with a ten-foot pole.

 


Clint_L

Hero
I used to be a daily visitor to ENWorld. In the last few years, I’ve found I visit less and less. Now, I pop back in maybe every 6 months. Why? Because I got too irritated by Morrus and his mods slamming anyone who might dare question the overt, progressive, woke agenda that most RPG publishers have adopted.

I see nothing has changed.

See you in 6 months.

Cheers
Spoiler alert: it's not going to change.

People get old and complain about the values of "kids these days." It's a tale as old as humanity. You can go to any period of recorded history and find older folks complaining about younger folks and their woke agenda. Or whatever expression meant "woke." Remember when hippies drove the establishment nuts? Then when Generation X were widely known as the "slacker" generation? Socrates complained those kids with their damned literacy that was undermining memory and the oral tradition.

It's the circle of life.

So your grandparents complained about your generation. Now it's your turn to be on the other end of it. If it makes you feel better, one day, some of today's youth will be complaining about all the woke kids (except they probably won't use an old-timey expression like "woke").

Culture evolves. You can roll with it, or you can shake your fist from the sidelines. I find it much more interesting to accept it and see what happens next.
 

Azzy

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Ask and ye shall receive. (Video cued to the part in question.)

Disclaimer: I'm parking this here purely in the interests of providing a verbatim, in-context quote. Not weighing in on what he says at all, because I am not touching that subject with a ten-foot pole.

Thank you.
 

Azzy

ᚳᚣᚾᛖᚹᚢᛚᚠ
I used to be a daily visitor to ENWorld. In the last few years, I’ve found I visit less and less. Now, I pop back in maybe every 6 months. Why? Because I got too irritated by Morrus and his mods slamming anyone who might dare question the overt, progressive, woke agenda that most RPG publishers have adopted.

I see nothing has changed.

See you in 6 months.

Cheers
Everybody take two shots!
(This drinking game is fun.)
 

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