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Another revision, to catch the typographical errors that ErikTheGuy pointed out. This thing is starting to look really good, IMHO.

Yeah, you caught me being sloppy with my copypasta... and with not reading restrained, which says as part of itself that the victim is immobilized. Color me silly. :D

A new version of the document is up. The link in the OP has been revised accordingly. Attack it viciously! ;-)

Actually, thank you for stomping all over my idea. You've fed me some excellent ideas on how to "un-break" my concept. Thank you!

Actually, "harsh" is sorta what I was looking for, so you're cool. I knew it was broken. I just needed someone to explain HOW it was broken and point me in a better direction... which is exactly what you did. I'll do some more work on it tomorrow and post a new version, hopefully. The effort...

I find myself curious as to just how badly I broker the ranger doing this. Ranger, Controller-Variant BTW, PEACH means Please Evaluate and Critique Honestly. And this is the reason the revised ranger is so important to me. LOL!

Avatar the Last Airbender: A Guide to Playing Elemental Heroes in Dungeons and Dragons, 4th Edition Just saying. :)

So, what you are saying is that the second poster is preternaturally stupid and, by virtue of his rampant stupidity, fully deserved to have hate messages and vulgarity slung at him, rather than having his confusion (which he admitted to having at the beginning of his post) addressed in a polite...

And if that indeed addresses the OP's concerns, dear sir, than you have done a spectacularly wonderful thing. Thank you. My concern was that when someone asked him to clarify his question, the OP became violently confrontational and eventually unnecessarily vulgar without even clarifying his...

No, it's not *necessary* to explain anything to him, but doing so would have helped him address the concerns you wanted us all to address, since you did indeed seem to contradict yourself in your initial post. Just because a request sounds simple to you doesn't mean it's going to be simple to...

Very much touche. You've presented a much, much stronger and more satisfying argument than "isn't that what they're doing with the seeker anyway" line. It is sad that designers are convinced that you have to go divine, arcane, or primal to get all of those status effects. Maybe I should focus...

If you insist on seeing it that way, I'm not going to waste the energy trying to prove you wrong. The seeker has a completely different set of powers and special effects than the ranger does. All I've done is made the ranger strike more opponents at once rather than commit greater damage to...

I offered this in another thread about changing a class' role. I thought you might like it here, as well. ----- Ranger As A Martial Controller Hit Points/Healing Surges: Unchanged. The druid gets as many hit points as a rangers do (and 1 more healing surge), so I saw no reason to change...

Thanks for the advice, Keterys. I've updated my post above taking some of your advice.

Ranger As A Martial Controller Hit Points/Healing Surges: Unchanged. The druid gets as many hit points as a rangers do (and 1 more healing surge), so I saw no reason to change the ranger's traits on that front. Fighting Style: Unchanged. Hunter's Quarry: Rangers lose hunter's quarry and...

Can anyone re-upload this class somewhere? MalcolmN's 4shared link no longer works. :-( TIA.

It may be just me, but the only reason it took me 12 hours to buy the book from DriveThruRPG was because I had to get money on my GreenDot card. I've been looking for a professionally written elementalist class since 4E first came out. That there are three races and a fully fleshed out city to...

Please say that you're still on for the 4-15-09 release date. I'm really looking forward to the setting and character options (especially the character options) you're offering in this book.

So I take it the answer to my "embedded" question is "Yes, they were left out deliberately"? Also, you explained what you would do, but you didn't explain why.

I am (very slowly) writing a campaign setting for share with the world. It'll be packaged as a campaign guide/player's guide, since that seems to be a winning strategy. I intend it to be a fan-work, not a for-profit project... I'll probably post the books on Scribd and share the links here...