D&D (2024) The Great Nerf to High Level Martials: The New Grapple Rules

[Horwath]

You think she can easily swing a battleaxe from that position?

She certainly has 0 move speed and can't reach your wizard until she escapes.

Meanwhile, you can drag her to a cliff and drop her.

that is why in 3.5e you had no penalty in using light weapon in grapple.

 

[Incenjucar]

unless you are 3 size different, stepping one someone, outside damage of the stomp, does not give control of them.

Well you gotta wear the right shoes.

 

[Gammadoodler]

unless you are 3 size different, stepping one someone, outside damage of the stomp, does not give control of them.

Step 1. Grab someone by the collar
Step 2. Throw them to the ground
Step 3. Continue to hold the collar.

Basically the end of a hockey fight.

 

[Horwath]

Step 1. Grab someone by the collar
Step 2. Throw them to the ground
Step 3. Continue to hold the collar.

Basically the end of a hockey fight.

sure, but you are prone with them on the floor basically.

like here.

 

[Gammadoodler]

sure, but you are prone with them on the floor basically.

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like here.

Weirdest hockey uniforms I've ever seen.

But also note the guy on the right still has their feet under them.

Edit: Also note that the screenshots here are full-on submission holds which are beyond what 5e is talking about.

 

[Horwath]

Weirdest hockey uniforms I've ever seen.

But also note the guy on the right still has their feet under them.

yes, technically.
But, I would not call that being upright and walking around.

 

[Incenjucar]

Personally I'm a big fan of boot-to-throat, assuming a monster has one.

 

[Horwath]

Personally I'm a big fan of boot-to-throat, assuming a monster has one.

good to describe dramatically, but no control.

Damage sure, hell, even critical hit I would say. But no control over your target.

It is same as having a dagger at someones throat, no control, but there is a good chance of instakill if you are faster than your target.

 

[Incenjucar]

good to describe dramatically, but no control.

Damage sure, hell, even critical hit I would say. But no control over your target.

It is same as having a dagger at someones throat, no control, but there is a good chance of instakill if you are faster than your target.

How much control do you expect to actually have in a given 6-second window?

 

[Gammadoodler]

yes, technically.
But, I would not call that being upright and walking around.

Like they might only be able to move themself and their target at half speed?