Why Did "Solo" and "Rogue One" Feel Like RPG Sessions?

If you saw the two most recent "Star Wars Story" movies--Solo or Rogue One--a common refrain is that they feel like how Star Wars role-playing game sessions play out. The reason has a lot to do with a shift in franchise-building philosophy and what kinds of stories role-playing games are good at telling.

If you saw the two most recent "Star Wars Story" movies--Solo or Rogue One--a common refrain is that they feel like how Star Wars role-playing game sessions play out. The reason has a lot to do with a shift in franchise-building philosophy and what kinds of stories role-playing games are good at telling.

[h=3]The War That Never Ends[/h]Before selling Lucasfilm to Disney in 2012, George Lucas was working with Lawrence Kasdan on a standalone Solo film, with two others announced later (Rogue One and a third about Boba Fett). These films were first known as "anthology films" and later, "Star Wars Stories," are distinctive in that they lack an opening crawl like the trilogies. The exploration of these side stories is a tradition that Star Wars helped create:

As with most aspects of the modern blockbuster, franchise expansion got its big-screen start with “Star Wars,” which used novels, comic books and TV movies to create a so-called ‘Extended Universe,’ before gaining speed in the 2000s, thanks principally to superhero pictures, or borderline superhero pictures, like “Catwoman,” “Elektra,” and “The Scorpion King” (though “Supergirl” and “U.S. Marshals” are two unsuccessful examples of early universe-expansion before that).

But why now? Disney's success with interweaving Marvel stories -- something long-established in comics -- is certainly part of it:

Studio executives see their jobs as minimizing risk, and movies based on established, proven properties are seen as less risky than original material, and thus less likely to get them fired if they don’t work. The extended universe is seen to be a way of not just building on a franchise through sequels, but by linking seemingly stand-alone pictures and allowing them to crossover. Why take a gamble on an original script when you can squeeze in a spin-off or prequel instead? If you have a proven franchise asset, as most of these studios do, it’s seen as responsible business to maximize it by getting as much product out of it as you can. Whereas the old studio system would put their biggest stars in as many films as possible, now the properties themselves are the stars.

Two factors are coming together to make this kind of storytelling popular. Millennials are interested in storytelling and the Internet's fondness for mashups:

The of idea continuing a successful movie goes beyond just striking gold with the same idea. Studio executives see their jobs as minimizing risk, and movies based on established, proven properties are seen as less risky than original material, and thus less likely to get them fired if they don’t work. The extended universe is seen to be a way of not just building on a franchise through sequels, but by linking seemingly stand-alone pictures and allowing them to crossover. Why take a gamble on an original script when you can squeeze in a spin-off or prequel instead? If you have a proven franchise asset, as most of these studios do, it’s seen as responsible business to maximize it by getting as much product out of it as you can. Whereas the old studio system would put their biggest stars in as many films as possible, now the properties themselves are the stars.

It's probably no coincidence that Dungeons & Dragons is experiencing a rise in popularity too. And that's at least in part due to the fact that role-playing games do storytelling and mashups very well.
[h=3]RPG's Strength Stat[/h]Traditional RPGs in the vein of D&D can still tell exciting stories, but they don't lend themselves to the epic, sweeping narratives that are narrowly focused on one character's destiny--a staple of Star Wars.

There are reasons for this: randomization; an attempt to balance play for all players so they have fun; leveling and improvement systems so that all characters have an incentive for self-improvement; and multiple independently-minded player characters who may not follow the plot as dictated by the game master. Steven Ray Orr explains:

As a writer, I knew that storytelling was an isolated affair that involved ruthlessly stealing ideas from friends, family, and anyone else that happened upon my path, but Dungeons & Dragons is the antithesis of such selfishness and best understood as method of crafting a communal narrative. Just as the limitations of genre, form, and style bind written stories, so too are there rules in D&D that confine what is possible, but role-playing removes the absolute authorial control that comes with solitary storytelling.

D&D itself is a mashup of a wide variety of influences:

The different classes of character you can play as—barbarian, druid, wizard, etc.—are pulled from mythological and literary sources, from pre-Christian Celtic traditions to the character of Aragorn in the LOTR universe. Geographical planes where one can play, magical spells and weapons one can use, and monsters one might fight stem from sources as disparate as Pliny’s Natural History, Paradise Lost, and Arabian Nights. This kitschy mix of every fantastic invention or story we know of makes the texture of D&D campaigns collage-like and chaotic. Since so many ideas are being reused at once, one inevitably creates a new Frankenstein’s monster of a campaign every time.

D&D and RPGs in general have always told great stories, and the geeky nature of fandom encourages detail-oriented worldbuilding. The Star Wars Story films are an attempt to fill in those gaps. In a way, the sensibilities of the expanded universe ofthe Star Wars franchise has come full circle, reaching the big screen that spawned it. It's a new form of storytelling that has been prevalent on TV, and not everyone is happy about it.
[h=3]A New Form of Storytelling[/h]The expansion of Hollywood universes into a web of movies that contribute to a larger narrative has shifted the focus of a film's success away from its stars and good storytelling to worldbuilding, which can only be fully appreciated by consuming all of the media:

When movies were mostly one-offs—and not spinoffs, sequels, reboots, or remakes—they had to be good...No matter how well executed, commercial success for such a film was never guaranteed. Laying out an enormous sum of money on a product whose creation depends upon a harmony of massive egos, and whose final appeal is the result of intangibles, is a terrible basis for a commercial enterprise...Today, the major franchises are commercially invulnerable because they offer up proprietary universes that their legions of fans are desperate to reënter on almost any terms. These reliable sources of profit are now Hollywood’s financial bedrock.

The latest Avengers: Infinity War movie leaned heavily on the audience's knowledge of the other movies and was therefore its success was nearly inseparable from the entire Marvel oeuvre. Joshua Rothman of the New Yorker explains how this transition affects Star Wars:

It used to be a “saga”—a story told in the epic mode, in which the fate of the world is inextricably tied to the souls of cosmically important and irreplaceable individuals. It’s becoming a “universe,” in which atomized and interchangeable people embark on adventures that are individually exciting but ultimately inconsequential.

Add all this together and it's no wonder that movies are now starting to tell the same stories that RPGs have always been telling:

When the universalization of “Star Wars” is complete, it will no longer be a story but an aesthetic. We’ll be able to debate which actor played Han Solo best, just as we weigh the pros and cons of different James Bonds. We’ll keep up with the new movies not because we want to find out what happens—the plot, if one exists, will be an impenetrable trellis of intersecting arclets—but because we like their vibe, their look, and their general moral attitude.

If the box office receipts of Star Wars and the Marvel movies are any indication, fans are finally coming around to the kinds of stories we've telling with our RPGs for decades.

Mike "Talien" Tresca is a freelance game columnist, author, communicator, and a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to http://amazon.com. You can follow him at Patreon.
 

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Michael Tresca

Michael Tresca

Gradine

The Elephant in the Room (she/her)
I'm a diehard Star Wars fanatic and I actually liked Solo better than Rogue One (well, to be honest, it's more like R1 2nd Half > Solo > R1 1st Half). I've also loved the new trilogy so far, so <shrug>.

I really ought to try to convince more people to try get into a Star Wars RPG; haven't bothered to check out the FFG version yet, how does it play?
 

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talien

Community Supporter
Ah you're one of those people that pretends The Last Jedi never happened.

I'm specifically referencing "A Star Wars Story" which is a different kind of movie from the main trilogies. So Last Jedi happened, but totally distinct from these new "side quests."

EDIT: Two other people pointed this out before I read all the way down, didn't mean to pile on!
 

Ath-kethin

Elder Thing
As a Star Wars fan since age 6 when I saw the original film in 1977, I enjoyed both The Last Jedi and Solo, and find that contemporary SW fans are becoming a really weird bunch. It really helps that I see these movies with my 6 1/2 year old son who helps serve as an important reminder that Star Wars is best enjoyed in proper context.

The Last Jedi was impressive for being a meticulous deconstruction of the franchise. Solo was equally impressive for being an affirmation of the story's core conceits. That they both worked despite being so opposite in terms of underlying structure strikes me as an impressive range of achievement for a franchise that started as an homage to Flash Gordon serials.

Hear, hear.

I was already a fan of Star Wars when I saw Jedi in the theater at age 5. I thought The Last Jedi was amazing and Solo was really good (if, as a prequel of sorts, completely unnecessary).

Complaints about TLJ (the ones that aren't overtly racist/sexist, anyway) sound to me a lot like complaints about calculus back in high school; it's weird and does things differently from that we're used to. But like calculus, it's a far more advanced take on the structure upon which it is built, and allows far more in the way of options and directions it can go.
 

Schmoe

Adventurer
First, thanks for the post. I find it a very interesting observation about the current state of Hollywood. I wonder if this in some way maps back to the "serial" days of early Hollywood, where the success isn't about one single film but is more about the overall body of work.

Also, I'm not sure I understand all of the criticisms of the recent films. I loved Rogue One, really liked Last Jedi, and thought Solo was pretty good entertainment. Does that make me a bad person?
 

Mistwell

Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
Alt-right guys whine about "forced diversity/feminism" in New Star Wars... in other news, water is wet.

A few screeching neckbeards does not constitute a significant majority. Yep, you guys sure spammed Rotten Tomatoes with vice-signaling user reviews. Still won't kill the franchise if Jar Jar/Prequel Anakin couldn't.

Paul isn't what you're implying (or saying) he is. He's just grumpy. He's not part of any "you guys" nor did he appear to be talking about the issue you're talking about. I think he just didn't like Solo.
 

dragoner

KosmicRPG.com
Rogue One was one of my favorites, and the Last Jedi was ok, though it would have been better if the end of the psychic connection was a romance and not killing a room full of people. #Murica

The whole Incel Jedi toxic fans thing definitely degrades the whole series, it's the fandom menace, nobody wants that out of their movie experience. Though I didn't go see Solo yet because it didn't look interesting, the actor of the young solo didn't strike me as solo-ish.

I've always looked at Star Wars as an aesthetic, or "dirty" space opera, in contrast to Trek's clean. One main reason that these franchises keep getting made over original fare, is that the studio owns the IP, sfx and all, that was one of the big deals with Lucas leaving Hollywood and going up to Marin to found Industrial Light and Magic, his sfx company. Add fan investment, and there is a fairly large savings for movies such as sci-fi that special effects are an enormous cost.

RPG's share similar themes story wise to some of these movies, same as something like Force 10 to Navarone, it's peripheral though. If played out exactly, often it would be either a railroad or one player grandstanding.
 

pming

Legend
Hiya.

Solo still fails miserably at the box office compared to other SW movies. It's got a lot of "issues", but some folks have no trouble ignoring or not even noticing them. That's fine. Good, actually; it lets them enjoy a SW movie where someone who is "a fan" and actually does notice these "issues"...not so much. I'm glad some folks enjoyed it. Good for them! I don't care to see it based on everything I've seen and read about the plot, story, acting, etc. Not really my idea of what SW is.

Money is money, and Solo is, from everything I've read, expected to lose money. This doesn't bode well for other "one-off" movies. They should stop now.

^_^

Paul L. Ming
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Solo still fails miserably at the box office compared to other SW movies. It's got a lot of "issues", but some folks have no trouble ignoring or not even noticing them. That's fine. Good, actually; it lets them enjoy a SW movie where someone who is "a fan" and actually does notice these "issues"...not so much.

Stop gatekeeping, please. You don’t get to decide who’s a real fan and who isn’t.
 

Staccat0

First Post
I actually thought The Last Jedi felt a lot like a RPG session where everyone is rolling poorly. I don’t mean that as an insult either. Just an interesting structure designed around repeated failures still leading to resolution. There is a lot to learn about GMing from it IMO.
 


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